How are you finding your GTD performance?

[shiners]

If its against the law then how does my car pass its MOT? 

I dont have a friendly MOT tester and the last two MOT's have been done at stations 30 miles apart. As for  the smoke results they have been well within the limits and at no point was the car flashed back to standard

However what I do find strange is the smoke test is done whilst the car is sat still. Revving the engine whilst stationary does not put anywhere near the same  load on the engine as whilst in motion so to me its a bit pointless 

With regards to TPMS how can you test something if its not fitted?

For DPF's to become part of the MOT EVERY diesel car has to be fitted with one from manufacture. Yet not all all or where.  My father in law has a 2007 Fiat Bravo with a 1.9cdti engine but not DPF. Yet the same model built in the same 6 months with the same engine has a DPF fitted. Should the father in laws car fail the MOT because there is no DPF??

As regards TPMS - I should have said that it is an MOT check item for ALL cars and Light Vehicles SO FITTED. irrespective of year of manufacture. My previous car - 2005 GTI which had TPMS fitted from new - became subject to this for the first time last year, 7 years after manufacture. There are many many newer vehicles that are not TPMS fitted and therefore are not subject to this check. I could foresee something similar happening with DPFs... sooner rather than later?

[Rhyso]

Do you know the actual smoke results?

Only for last year I think. Haven't got the paperwork to hand. Didnt get given the smoke test results this year    but I saw the test performed and it passed

One question to ask is how do the MOT testers know exactly what is fitted to each car for them to test it? With the TPMS how do they check it?? Genuine question as I do not know 

[shiners]

 If the warning light for TPMS is illuminated (proof the vehicle is so fitted) at the time of the test then it's a FAIL. Same applies to Illuminated ABS warning light, MIL light etc. I would presume that the MOT tester would attempt to reset the TPMS before failing as it is quite possible that the owner had forgotten to press the button to reset the system after a puncture.

[Rhyso]

Says TPMS is for vehicles that were fitted with it from 2012 onwards

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing-repair/mot-changes-2012.html

 

[shiners]

Says TPMS is for vehicles that were fitted with it from 2012 onwards

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing-repair/mot-changes-2012.html

 

I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out

[Poached]

Do you know the actual smoke results?

Only for last year I think. Haven't got the paperwork to hand. Didnt get given the smoke test results this year    but I saw the test performed and it passed

One question to ask is how do the MOT testers know exactly what is fitted to each car for them to test it? With the TPMS how do they check it?? Genuine question as I do not know 

Yeh you have to ask for the emissions results now, they use to print it all on the same sheet before.

Also I agree revving the engine while stationary doesn't represent the engine at load. I guess if you're belching out a lot of smoke stationary then a test under load is likely to be worse.

[Rhyso]

Says TPMS is for vehicles that were fitted with it from 2012 onwards

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing-repair/mot-changes-2012.html

 

I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out

Dont take that as gospel mind; thats from the AA website lol 

I think half the problem is people have a conversation or overhear something being said and it gets turned into something different

I prefer to wait until something OFFICIAL has been published 

[mcmaddy]

For DPF's to become part of the MOT EVERY diesel car has to be fitted with one from manufacture. Yet not all all or where.  My father in law has a 2007 Fiat Bravo with a 1.9cdti engine but not DPF. Yet the same model built in the same 6 months with the same engine has a DPF fitted. Should the father in laws car fail the MOT because there is no DPF??

I'm talking about removing the dpf from the car not cars that didn't have one in the first place. if the car is supposed to have a dpf and the not tester finds its been removed then it's apparently a fail. how true this is I don't know it's just what I was told.

[Rhyso]

Time to eat my hat i guess 

http://www.aftermarketonline.net/News/Industry-News/2013/29465-/MOT-rules-tightened-to-detect-missing-DPFs

Oh well. Doesn't worry me.....

Wonder how those who had the DPF removed and paid for by the dealer / manufacturer will fare    thats going to be interesting!!

Equally I thought that the MOT was to ensure your vehicle was safe for the road. A DPF has nothing to do with safety

[Poached]

Excessive smoke that would obscure other road users vision is considered a fail.