How are you finding your GTD performance?

[h5djr]

As I understand the situation, it would not be a MOT failure at the moment, but will almost certainly be in the near future based on the fact that the car will no longer comply with the European Type Approval that was granted for the model.

[Rhyso]

As I understand the situation, it would not be a MOT failure at the moment, but will almost certainly be in the near future based on the fact that the car will no longer comply with the European Type Approval that was granted for the model.

Which will be for cars bult from a certain date like they did for cats on petrols. They picked a date and everyone had to comply with that. It wasnt a retrospective date as far as im aware

How would you feel if the MANUFACTURER told you to remove the DPF to avoid problems and you then failed the MOT because they then said even older cars have to have it fitted. My missus works for Trading Standards and have dealt with cases where the manufacturer has agreed to pay for a remap and DPF removal as its actually cheaper for them to do so than fit a replacement DPF

Also what about cars where the same engine is fitted yet not a DPF on one and one on another??

Its like a game of football. You keep playing until you hear the whistle. For now carry on IMO

[watson]

" Its an offence under the Road Vehicles ( Construction and Use ) Regulations to use a vehicle that has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet "

" Removal of a DPF will almost invariably contravene these requirements making the vehicle illegal for road use.

[2014GTi]

Kind of defeats the point in buying a GTD if your removing something which has a negative impact on CO2 and MPG.
As stated, it's against the law.

[Poached]

As I understand the situation, it would not be a MOT failure at the moment, but will almost certainly be in the near future based on the fact that the car will no longer comply with the European Type Approval that was granted for the model.

Which will be for cars bult from a certain date like they did for cats on petrols. They picked a date and everyone had to comply with that. It wasnt a retrospective date as far as im aware

How would you feel if the MANUFACTURER told you to remove the DPF to avoid problems and you then failed the MOT because they then said even older cars have to have it fitted. My missus works for Trading Standards and have dealt with cases where the manufacturer has agreed to pay for a remap and DPF removal as its actually cheaper for them to do so than fit a replacement DPF

Also what about cars where the same engine is fitted yet not a DPF on one and one on another??

Its like a game of football. You keep playing until you hear the whistle. For now carry on IMO

The Smoke test limit was halved for cars from July 2008.

What sort of smoke results have you been getting? I suppose you could always flash back to stock power if there were issues.

[monkeyhanger]

Does anyone even know how clean a MK7 GTD is without it's DPF? Could it meet current standards? Not sure anyone here knows that. A Jersey (or was it Guernsey) model has no DPF because it would choke up very quickly, given the size of the island. Do they have exemptions on emissions to allow them to remove the DPF without recourse, or can VW tune up a non DPF variant to remain just within current regs?

Common rail TDIs are a lot cleaner than the old PD units in terms of soot generation. VW has always been quick to implement DPF addition rather than wait for regs to enforce their addition.

[shiners]

'How would you feel if the MANUFACTURER told you to remove the DPF to avoid problems and you then failed the MOT because they then said even older cars have to have it fitted. My missus works for Trading Standards and have dealt with cases where the manufacturer has agreed to pay for a remap and DPF removal as its actually cheaper for them to do so than fit a replacement DPF

Also what about cars where the same engine is fitted yet not a DPF on one and one on another??

Its like a game of football. You keep playing until you hear the whistle. For now carry on IMO'


 Has this situation not already occured with Tyre Pressure Monitoring Systems and MILs? The MOT regs were changed in 2012 and were applied to All cars and light vehicles irrespective of year of manufacture, were they not? The very same may well apply to DPFs at some point?#

[GTD 0102]

Well I certainly left my brothers a3 sline. 140. Then we pulled over to plug in his dtuk box. Apparently raising his power to 180ps. Again the result was in the GTDs favour. Quit considerably , over a rolling start. 1 mile test. Also u sat with a type r the other night quite comfortably. (Sport mode) at times I could have passed. If it wasn't so icy!!!! SHAME.

[Rhyso]

If its against the law then how does my car pass its MOT? 

I dont have a friendly MOT tester and the last two MOT's have been done at stations 30 miles apart. As for  the smoke results they have been well within the limits and at no point was the car flashed back to standard

However what I do find strange is the smoke test is done whilst the car is sat still. Revving the engine whilst stationary does not put anywhere near the same  load on the engine as whilst in motion so to me its a bit pointless 

With regards to TPMS how can you test something if its not fitted?

For DPF's to become part of the MOT EVERY diesel car has to be fitted with one from manufacture. Yet not all all or where.  My father in law has a 2007 Fiat Bravo with a 1.9cdti engine but not DPF. Yet the same model built in the same 6 months with the same engine has a DPF fitted. Should the father in laws car fail the MOT because there is no DPF??

[Poached]

Do you know the actual smoke results?