How are you finding your GTD performance?

[corgi]

80mph is 2200rpm in 6th, so scaling that down, 75 should be around 2050rpm (2062 to be precise). I got 48mpg on a 65 mile return trip to Hartlepool recently, doing a constant 80mph, so 75mph/50mpg should be doable. Downside is, that would have been 53mpg in similar conditions in the Scirocco.

Given that the long term average in my current car is 25.8mpg and on a run I can make >30 mpg... I don't think I'll be too disappointed 

What's more, I get to keep the existing car for when I want to go quickly or bask inthe sunshine... 

[monkeyhanger]

I suppose (Like AMarsh) it is time to say bollocks to mpg and start having more  fun with the car, to hell with the fuel economy because it isn’t going to please me seeing what it is.

I would never sit in the gear change prompt range for overtaking, I use them as speed maintenance or gentle acceleration prompts only. I do find myself wanting to change down a lot more with the GTD than I did with the 170, there seems far more times where the torque is lacking without dropping a few cogs. The car runs for about 1/3 of a mile (I’m guessing ½ a Km) before it starts to show trip mpg. The figures generated are probably meaningless with a huge margin of interpretation/error until you have done that minimum journey length.

[MajorKhan]

Corgi: my bmw has a 130,000miles on the clock, is a touring some maybe even heavier....most of the time im on my own and the torque is pritty constant after 1800 all the way to 4500...in my eyes car is a rocket mate and returns 40+mpg @ 80mph...so heavier then most vw/audis, more powerful and returns more mpg....whats gone wrong with VW???

[johanr77]

I had a mk6 GTD before and I was averaging 48mpg most of the time, this was calculated from litres used against miles driven not the computer which always seemed 10% out. The MK6 felt quicker lower down and seemed to tolerate accelerating in higher gears from low revs. The MK7 for all of the 1100 miles I've driven it seems a bit more hesitant at low revs and like others I feel I have to be in a lower gear than the car tells me. To get better mpg I've been using eco driver profile but it's like driving a lower powered version of the car. So far best I've gotten has been 45mpg over a tank and I also think the smaller tank changes our perception of the fuel performance. I would regularly get nigh on 600 miles to a tank when doing some longer runs, this car I'm struggling to get near to 500miles let alone north of it. I'm not usually one to moan about manufacturers claims but I have sent an e-mail to the dealer regarding the engine performance saying how disappointed I am when comparing it to VW's claims in the literature. Not had an answer yet.

[corgi]

There's been plenty of discussion on the BMW forums to show that general driving in Eco Pro (similar, I guess to our Eco) does not result in improved fuel consumption, mainly, I guess, because people drive the car a little harder to make up for the softened throttle response.

In the g/f's 120d we have found that Eco Pro is good for constant speeds e.g. motorway from a fuel consumption perspective whereas Normal or even Sport are better in other circumstances...

[MaccaGTD]

Hi all  ,

I'm long time lurker, had to join to reply to this thread, usually just come here and check out whats going on etc GTI/GTD wise with like minded people...

Had a GTD since beginning of Oct ordered April, got nearly 6k on clock and it hasnt been babied at all. It is still very tight. My prev passat 170 DSG seemed to have an internal software switch turned on at 20k and it really loosened up and became a lot quicker. Put 100k on that over 3 years and it was still awesome to drive.

The GTD engine needs to be warm and and driven a lot harder, too hard in caparison to the passat in some respects as it needs more aggression and this rubs off on my driving style / mood..
But when it is driven in the higher rev band (sports best for DSG gearing and holding the band) its mental, but doesnt necessarily feel it! some days it does feel quicker and seems to pull harder than others?!

A friendly 170 rocco and myself "had it" this morning and trust me, hes wanting a 184 PS. Quite close lower speeds but by the time i was in 4th he was behind me DSG may help though. The pull from 80 - 120MPH is phenomenal for a diesel. At 70/80 the DSG foot to floor will drop to 4th and then your off, just keep it planted. The engine does back off very quickly on throttle release (hence keep planted) and a dsg will shift straight up and lose power in the acceleration.

I get anywhere from 38 - 60 MPG depending on the driving style and distance. Worth remembering short trips MPG will always be low from cold, and its worth checking MPG after a reset once engine is warm then do a few miles.

Worth noting the DSG is better to drive as it doesnt go striaght to 6th at 30MPH although does not feel as smooth on the changes.

Got the squeaky suspension too, got to get it in!

[MaccaGTD]

I did take it fairly easy for the first 1k though 

[corgi]

The 80-120mph test was on a private runway or track, right?

I only ask because your post reads like you did it on the motorway which is not what you might want certain folks to believe 

[adekil]

I drove my GTD today on the same roads as yesterday, same weather conditions and with the same style and acceleration and it felt quicker for sure; actually it was colder today!

Yesterday it felt sluggish and yes I appreciate the refinement comments but today was just as refined as yesterday although I could feel when being pushed back in my seat the car was quicker.

I'm using 3rd or 4th gear most of the time due to the short distances I travel to work so cannot comment on higher gears but those two should have the best acceleration (excluding the potentially fun 2nd gear thanks to shoddy traction)

I haven't even bothered about the MPG as I got this car for fun, will worry a little later on in life regarding cost of fuel 

If there really is a science behind getting the most out of the car then the fun factor has been taken away already.

I always max or closely max the revs out too so my findings aren't due to me being soft on the peddles.

I'm going to watch closely the next time I see a MK7 TDI driver in case they are laughing because they have my GTD engine!

[Geomets]

Corgi: my bmw has a 130,000miles on the clock, is a touring some maybe even heavier....most of the time im on my own and the torque is pritty constant after 1800 all the way to 4500...in my eyes car is a rocket mate and returns 40+mpg @ 80mph...so heavier then most vw/audis, more powerful and returns more mpg....whats gone wrong with VW???

At that speed (over 110km/h) the weight factor doesn't "play" much... It's the aerodynamics of the vehicle. Considering that your Beemer is a touring (better aerodynamics due to longer body) it's not abnormal to have better fuel consumption. I think that's the way it should be...