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Offline Bill_the_Bear

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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #40 on: 08 August 2013, 11:33 »
Some easy haggling later a very well specified m135i list price £35240 was purchased for just over £29k.

sh!t seriously?  That is an immense discount!  What spec did you get if you don't mind my asking?

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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #41 on: 08 August 2013, 11:40 »
This isn't a surprise to me, I posted last week I think about how desperate BMW are for sales.  Another great discount!
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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #42 on: 08 August 2013, 12:11 »
Just gone back to my configuration on the BMW site.  Basically this discount cptmorgans got would make the M135i identical in price to the GTI when I spec them roughly the same.  Obviously they don't have the exact same spec, I had to drop a few things on the BMW (e.g. adaptive chassis etc) but then picked up some kit that is better than on the Golf.  Also the extra 100 horses.

Thinking insurance would be a killer I checked that too.  £366, compares with about £250 for the Golf.  I think there is a tax difference too, but f**k it.  I'm totally gonna be explaining this to VWCS in lengthy detail when they (eventually) call me back!

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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #43 on: 08 August 2013, 12:25 »
Trouble is Bear is that I don't think they'll give a toss!  They know that if you cancel they'll sell your car straight away.  And this is what grates on me - they don't care!

The wait is highly annoying - however all anyone asks for are reasons why eg the camera - if they said that then at least we'd all know and either take it off or keep it on and deal with it!

Everyone should bear in mind my experience from a few months ago - in summary, VW were highly f7cked off I was commenting on the wait on twitter and, according to my dealer, were close to cancelling my order.  I don't believe this for a second, however it shows that they take public displays of annoyance (I was never rude or threatening etc etc) seriously.  The flip side of this is that if I hadn't of gone through that process and subsequently been dealing with the VW Executive Office, that I would still be waiting for a build week confirmation - so it was worth it in my eyes.
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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #44 on: 08 August 2013, 12:47 »
The flip side of this is that if I hadn't of gone through that process and subsequently been dealing with the VW Executive Office, that I would still be waiting for a build week confirmation - so it was worth it in my eyes.

I echo this exactly.  We can argue the toss of having to complain in the first place, but if you don't, somebody else will, and they will get the attention.  Just be firm but fair, and show a bit of understanding from their side, even if you don't mean it.
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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #45 on: 08 August 2013, 13:00 »
The flip side of this is that if I hadn't of gone through that process and subsequently been dealing with the VW Executive Office, that I would still be waiting for a build week confirmation - so it was worth it in my eyes.

I echo this exactly.  We can argue the toss of having to complain in the first place, but if you don't, somebody else will, and they will get the attention.  Just be firm but fair, and show a bit of understanding from their side, even if you don't mean it.

Exactly, bang on.
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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #46 on: 08 August 2013, 13:17 »
You are not alone Drisser  :smiley:

I had negotiated my Mk7 GTI order on Monday, reasonable discount and trade in for my current 3 series. Expected delivery January 2014.

I then had a chance to try a m135i on Tuesday, sweet mother that thing shifts. After a few hours with my local dealer, whom my current car was bought from and after discussing my potential mk7 gti purchase they put an offer together. Some easy haggling later a very well specified m135i list price £35240 was purchased for just over £29k. I also secured an extra £1500 for my trade in and my delivery is expected 1st week in october.

I'm just down the road from you in Stirling. Really really loved the Mk7 GTI but the sheer performance in the BMW just sold it for me.

Yep, identical situation really, I was sold on the Golf, but BMW put together a compelling deal, and when I sat down and actually worked it out, its cheaper than if I specced the Golf PP to same level (I have leather and NAV on the 135 and discounted it will cost me around £800 more than the Golf I specced which didnt have either)

The real clincher at the moment is the lead time - people will wait 6-9 months for an Aston or Porsche 911 maybe, but not a mainstream hatch.  Plus I have an MOT due end of the year so you dont want to shell out on a service, tyres, etc just because a manufacturer cant give you ANY info.

Sad situation really - some demand is good, too much demand and poor service is a no no.

Still, i will enjoy the BMW also I am sure.  What spec did you go for ?
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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #47 on: 08 August 2013, 13:22 »
5 door, alpine white, comfort pack, sun protection pack, auto transmission, adaptive suspension, HK Stereo, elec folding mirrors, heated seats and black panel display (which is cool as f^&k).

Main reason I'm changing my car is for performance and sound, and damn does it tick those boxes. Can't wait now :)

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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #48 on: 08 August 2013, 13:33 »
dont get the black panel display thing..  whats the difference to the std spec ?

Am finalising my spec on saturday before ordering..
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Re: M135 Just driven - Full Unbiased Comparison.. Decision Time !
« Reply #49 on: 08 August 2013, 13:38 »
Wait, what is the black panel and why is it bad?