GTI Speedo is dated

[Running Man]

Why oh why oh why would anybody who has an ounce of class or taste want a dashboard that would do nothing more than cheapen the brand and cheapen the product?

Yes.  But (IMO) its the GTI/Golf that has the cheapest speedo with the littlest apparent effort or thought put into it of... well, any car I've ever been in.  So why do we want this speedo?  I'll say again, it uses some basic font, the numbers are random sizes, its unclear at a glance what speed you're even at because the needle COVERS the numbers and the tick marks are too far out (should be the other way around! in which case the numbers would probably not need to be different sizes).  Its a dog's breakfast where even 5 minutes of effort would result in something 100x better.  Its like they've never seen how a speedo should look.  And all that is assuming you stick with the cheap material dash as it is, I'm not even talking about a digital dash.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.  I'm not promoting Kia or any brand, that is merely an example.  I used an example of a cheaper car than a Golf because if I show you a Merc dash or a Jag you're just gonna say "yeah, but you pay 3x as much for those cars".  I don't let the Golf off the hook just because it does everything else well, its a £30k car and I expect a better dashboard.

Anyway, perhaps I'll redesign the speedo later on a post an example of what 5mins of design effort can do and therefore why the VW effort gets marks of 1/10 from me.

If you hate it that much and will be looking at it every few seconds when you drive it why are you buying one?

[Bill_the_Bear]

If you hate it that much and will be looking at it every few seconds when you drive it why are you buying one?

No car does everything 100% correct.  Is nothing on the new GTI you wouldn't change?

[Running Man]

If you hate it that much and will be looking at it every few seconds when you drive it why are you buying one?

No car does everything 100% correct.  Is nothing on the new GTI you wouldn't change?

No, and if I didn't like the dash well that's a massive thing to live with if you don't like it ( as you rate it 1 out of 10) I'm baffled by your thread.

[Bill_the_Bear]

No, and if I didn't like the dash well that's a massive thing to live with if you don't like it ( as you rate it 1 out of 10) I'm baffled by your thread.

Well, I'm glad for you that you've found a car where there is nothing you'd change on it. Do you really give every single element 10/10 though?  Really?

However, I'm baffled that anyone likes a speedo where even basic errors such as the tick marks and numbers being reversed are being committed.  Numbers go on the outside beyond the length of the pointer, and ticks go on the inside so you can see accurately the readout when the ticks align with the pointer and the pointer points at the numbers.  Its such a noob mistake, and completely unnecessary.  Was the design not reviewed?  Even so how could anyone make such a massive error in the first place?

Anyway perhaps I'll design my own insert so I don't have to put up with it.

[Running Man]

No, and if I didn't like the dash well that's a massive thing to live with if you don't like it ( as you rate it 1 out of 10) I'm baffled by your thread.

Well, I'm glad for you that you've found a car where there is nothing you'd change on it. Do you really give every single element 10/10 though?  Really?

However, I'm baffled that anyone likes a speedo where even basic errors such as the tick marks and numbers being reversed are being committed.  Numbers go on the outside beyond the length of the pointer, and ticks go on the inside so you can see accurately the readout when the ticks align with the pointer and the pointer points at the numbers.  Its such a noob mistake, and completely unnecessary.  Was the design not reviewed?  Even so how could anyone make such a massive error in the first place?

Anyway perhaps I'll design my own insert so I don't have to put up with it.

I never said I gave everything 10/10, said I was happy with it all and wouldn't change anything, hence why I'm buying my 4th GTI 

[Bill_the_Bear]

I never said I gave everything 10/10, said I was happy with it all and wouldn't change anything, hence why I'm buying my 4th GTI 

Well, I'm happy with it overall, but I would still change the Speedo for one that meets the basic Speedo standards!

Actually in my case I would like something more advanced, more cutting edge.  I think its perfectly possible to make a digital dashboard that is simple, classic, stylish and impressive.  Its a real shame VW they didn't in my opinion.

[Golf7]

No, and if I didn't like the dash well that's a massive thing to live with if you don't like it ( as you rate it 1 out of 10) I'm baffled by your thread.

Well, I'm glad for you that you've found a car where there is nothing you'd change on it. Do you really give every single element 10/10 though?  Really?

However, I'm baffled that anyone likes a speedo where even basic errors such as the tick marks and numbers being reversed are being committed.  Numbers go on the outside beyond the length of the pointer, and ticks go on the inside so you can see accurately the readout when the ticks align with the pointer and the pointer points at the numbers.  Its such a noob mistake, and completely unnecessary.  Was the design not reviewed?  Even so how could anyone make such a massive error in the first place?

Anyway perhaps I'll design my own insert so I don't have to put up with it.

I wouldn't rate every individual element of the car as 10/10, but I would say as whole package it is very close to being 10/10 and more of a complete package than any other hatchback out there. No it is not the highest quality car on the market, but for the money nothing comes close.

There is no element of the car that I think is only a 1/10, if there were then I certainly wouldn't buy one and if you honestly detest the dash design so much then you are completely mad for ordering one OR you must love the rest of the car so much that the dash pails into insignificance, in which case stop bloody moaning! 

(I should point out that I merely have a GT on order, not a GTI/GTD. But I would rather have a Golf in GT spec than a Focus ST, Astra VXR, or any other cheap looking, chocolate box plastic piece of crap on the market).

As for your comment about not being able to read the speed because the needle covers the number..... Oh dear, are you sure you should be driving?!!    If you can read the 20 and the 40, and the needle is in the middle then you are traveling at...... 30!!!!

It is clear, it is simple, it is not trying to be anything it isn't, it is pure class and very tasteful. If I were you I'd cancel your order as 30k is a lot to pay for something that you need to take home and start redesigning once you have collected it from the dealership, rather than being out on the road enjoying the drive!!!   

[Running Man]

I never said I gave everything 10/10, said I was happy with it all and wouldn't change anything, hence why I'm buying my 4th GTI 

Well, I'm happy with it overall, but I would still change the Speedo for one that meets the basic Speedo standards!

Actually in my case I would like something more advanced, more cutting edge.  I think its perfectly possible to make a digital dashboard that is simple, classic, stylish and impressive.  Its a real shame VW they didn't in my opinion.

Ok 

[Golf7]

Just noticed you ordered a DSG. Maybe VW should remove the gear stick and put a touchscreen in, so you press D for drive or S for Sport etc??!! 

[Running Man]

No, and if I didn't like the dash well that's a massive thing to live with if you don't like it ( as you rate it 1 out of 10) I'm baffled by your thread.

Well, I'm glad for you that you've found a car where there is nothing you'd change on it. Do you really give every single element 10/10 though?  Really?

However, I'm baffled that anyone likes a speedo where even basic errors such as the tick marks and numbers being reversed are being committed.  Numbers go on the outside beyond the length of the pointer, and ticks go on the inside so you can see accurately the readout when the ticks align with the pointer and the pointer points at the numbers.  Its such a noob mistake, and completely unnecessary.  Was the design not reviewed?  Even so how could anyone make such a massive error in the first place?

Anyway perhaps I'll design my own insert so I don't have to put up with it.

I wouldn't rate every individual element of the car as 10/10, but I would say as whole package it is very close to being 10/10 and more of a complete package than any other hatchback out there. No it is not the highest quality car on the market, but for the money nothing comes close.

There is no element of the car that I think is only a 1/10, if there were then I certainly wouldn't buy one and if you honestly detest the dash design so much then you are completely mad for ordering one OR you must love the rest of the car so much that the dash pails into insignificance, in which case stop bloody moaning! 

(I should point out that I merely have a GT on order, not a GTI/GTD. But I would rather have a Golf in GT spec than a Focus ST, Astra VXR, or any other cheap looking, chocolate box plastic piece of crap on the market).

As for your comment about not being able to read the speed because the needle covers the number..... Oh dear, are you sure you should be driving?!!    If you can read the 20 and the 40, and the needle is in the middle then you are traveling at...... 30!!!!

It is clear, it is simple, it is not trying to be anything it isn't, it is pure class and very tasteful. If I were you I'd cancel your order as 30k is a lot to pay for something that you need to take home and start redesigning once you have collected it from the dealership, rather than being out on the road enjoying the drive!!!   

Class mate, 100% perfect response 

The Golf 7 is the leader and I'm sure will be for the next 40+ years