Abt Power increase

[Bill_the_Bear]

I still don't get how the LSD is coping with that.

Either VW are wrong about the max power it can handle (bit of a risk) or they've done something to prevent it being overloaded...?

Where did and in what context was this 260hp limit quoted from?

I can't remember actually.  I think it was in a vid review somewhere, I will try to find it when I get off work.

However, it is mentioned in the 2nd paragraph of this article:
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27654

Here too:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-to-unveil-faster-Golf-GTI-at-2013-Worthersee-show/

We talked about it in a thread on here somewhere as well...

[AAddict]

I still don't get how the LSD is coping with that.

Either VW are wrong about the max power it can handle (bit of a risk) or they've done something to prevent it being overloaded...?

Where did and in what context was this 260hp limit quoted from?

I can't remember actually.  I think it was in a vid review somewhere, I will try to find it when I get off work.

However, it is mentioned in the 2nd paragraph of this article:
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27654

We talked about it in a thread on here somewhere as well...

Yeah, I'm not really sure that this 260 limit is anything concrete.

[Bill_the_Bear]

Well, it seems this Dr Hackenberg has stated that the diff can go to ~250bhp sometime around Worthersee.  Perhaps he is wrong?  (found out, he is head of technical development at Wolfsburg)  Or maybe they are understating the capability and ABT know that...

[AAddict]

Well, it seems this Dr Hackenberg has stated that the diff can go to ~250bhp sometime around Worthersee.  Perhaps he is wrong?  Who is he?  Or maybe they are understating the capability and ABT know that...

ABT have been around a long time, if they claim 300hp+420Nm I'm inclined to trust them on it give or take a pony or two. How many times, even when giving it the beans do you think the full 300hp will be going to the wheels while cornering with the dif doing it's thing?

[Hobojim]

That is a lot of extra oomph, and, rather conservative gains on the 0-62 etc!? The in gear performance will be terrifying with that amount of torque. I will definitely be doing some sort of remap pretty early. I'm not sure ill be going for the full 300 BHP. A remap to around 260 bhp and a bit of a torque increase would be what I'm after. Noticed they have used a very similar air box to that of the mk5/6. Wonder if it will have the same restrictions. Same of the turbo back exhaust section. Have they upped the bore of it for the new model ?

[mac7]

The power or torque limits for the diff will be based on statistical distribution of MTBF, and conservative so as to minimise failures within a defined lifetime. If you shift what you consider an acceptable failure rate up a little and the mean lifetime down a bit, I'm sure you can stretch to 300ps without too much concern.

i.e. it's more likely your diff will break, but only a tiny bit.

I'm speculating but I wonder if the 10PS difference is because it's a piggy-back ECU and thus modifying the baseline settings by a percentage only, so if you're 10PS down at the start you'll be about 10-12PS down after tuning.

[Bill_the_Bear]

The power or torque limits for the diff will be based on statistical distribution of MTBF, and conservative so as to minimise failures within a defined lifetime. If you shift what you consider an acceptable failure rate up a little and the mean lifetime down a bit, I'm sure you can stretch to 300ps without too much concern.

i.e. it's more likely your diff will break, but only a tiny bit.

I'm speculating but I wonder if the 10PS difference is because it's a piggy-back ECU and thus modifying the baseline settings by a percentage only, so if you're 10PS down at the start you'll be about 10-12PS down after tuning.

MTBF? Mean time before failure?

[mac7]

Aye. I'm channeling my inner engineer...

[Bill_the_Bear]

Aye. I'm channeling my inner engineer...

So was I.  Never heard it before but had to guess that based on the context.  I'm surprised I got it, was sure one or two words would be slightly wrong! Haha

[CraigW]

Was there not an article saying that the GTI was already pushing out more than 220 that VW had claimed? If that is indeed the case then the gains that ABT are stating are not as impressive as they may appear