Author Topic: Which is a better engine... 8v or 16v??? I Didnt say faster, i said better!  (Read 8195 times)

Offline silkyballs

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correct me if im wrong but dont the 16 tend to eat gear boxes?if so that cant be good!doesnt get away from the fact that wheather it be 16 or 8 i love the mk2 they are a badge of modesty to drive!
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I have never driven a mark 2 8 valve so i wouldnt know what they are like! But at the end of the day its a GTI and would be proud to drive one whether it be 8 valve of 16 valve


Mine valver has done 155k and the gear box is fine at the mo, and i had one that had done 187k and that was ok, just the linkage was a bit shagged! I always thought the 16 valve boxes where a bit stronger anyway to cope with the more power (and prob the more abuse it is likely to take!!)

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if i mention the 8v haveing more tirque lower down i think i will be hubng, drawn and quatered....

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i am not sure if it does or not, but the 16 valve's power band is higher up than the 8 valve, so it may seem that way!

Offline Daz...

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if i mention the 8v haveing more tirque lower down i think i will be hubng, drawn and quatered....

someone had to say it didn't they  :laugh:

the 8v produces it's torque lower down so it seems better in that sense..but when the 16v hits it's sweet spot it produces more than the 8v and therefore sails past  :cool:
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hey i havent read any of this post but , i have a oak 3dr 16v minter , and a 8v 5dr silver  shed , and the 8valver is the better punchyer car , for just about all driving sittuations, only 2 things a 16 valver has better really is , Amazing brakes (Amazing compared 2 the small sh!t disks ) , and if u wanna drive ure car really hard a put a lot of effort in then the 16 valver is better, but u need 2 have ure driving hat on, so i honestly would sat the 8v is better for nealy everything , unless u are boy racer who wrecks classic cars (shame on u) :smiley:
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^^^^ completely disagree.

The 16v, is just as able bodied as the 8v in everyday situations. You all only seem to be viewing it from the point, "oh well the power is higher up the rev range in a 16v" errrr...... so what??? So you cannot drive a car like that normally without having to be on the power all the time???

That would mean all of you would prefer a 1.0 Fiat sh!tychento.  :huh: :huh: instead of a 2.5l V6 audi bi turbo, because all of the grunt is lower down the rev range.  :rolleyes:

It's nothing to do with where the grunt is and how high the torque band is, its purely on how you drive. I can happily pooter around in my valver without the need to put my foot down, and still keep up with everyday traffic. Saying that i can also stomp on the accellerator at every given oppertunity and drive like a complete tw@t. By the same token i can do exactly the same in a 8v.

If you want a comparison between engines the only thing you will be looking at is economy vs maintenance costs. On that score i would say that the 8v engine is the better one, slightly more economical because of the gearbox it is mated with, and it has a slightly lower rev range, thus giving it a more economical edge. Maintenance is pretty painless aswell, unless something electrical goes on a digi then you have to get the multimeter out.

16v engines, slightly more thirsty as they are always wanting to go higher up the rev range, and the box is geared to do so. Maintenance, again pretty painless, apart from when you need to get to the head. Being all mechanical then they are slightly easier to work on i find. Saying that i can still obtain about 40mpg on the motorway on mine and around 25-30 mpg around town (when it works)

So really the engines are on a par with each other, depending on what you want. I personally would go for a 16v each time, but then i like to slag mine down the strip. If i just wanted a pokey GTi i would go for the 8v. It's purely driver descretion and what it is needed for.  :smiley:

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can drive fast cars normally just saying 8v is better , for thrill , value and instant power , and yeah 16v drinks wee bit more fuel , so still go for the 8v
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They did do a digifant 16v, but it didn't appear until 1994, in the mk3 golf, engine code ABF.

Thats not a true digifant is it? Thought it was a variation along the same theme i.e Motronic etc..........

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yea thats what i thought about the mark 3 engines!

my valver is a nice drive around town, it is perfectly happy with pootling around, including doing about 30 in 4th, and when i need to have a serge of torque, i.e when the lights are changing to amber, when i put my foot down it is more than capable of doing what i want it to do!

We all like putting our foots down and i think the valver is a great car to be in to do so, i dnt mind the lag of power, when ur racing someone on a dual carriage way or what ever and they think they have beaten you or are beating you, its funny to see their faces as ur soar past as soon as the needle hits 4k rpm and goes beyond where the valver (as i am sure ur all aware) comes into its own! End of the day I love my valver and i am sure anyone who has an 8valve will like their care just as much! and fair play if they do!!

The main thing is to enjoy ur motoring!