Author Topic: Which is a better engine... 8v or 16v??? I Didnt say faster, i said better!  (Read 8174 times)

Offline knobby

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Ok i think its probably common fact that in a straight line a 16v will out perform an 8v, as its got a faster top end and more BHP. I think people also know that each delivers the power differently and this is why there is always the argument of why which one is faster, hey the banter there is always gonna continue...

OK so heres my question.... Which engine is actually better? 8v Or 16v?

I've recently been having little digs at "Veedubgti16v" as he has got a real thing about 8v's and how 16v's are so much faster, also me and "monzablue16v" go on about it.... Well I thought i'd ask you lot the question...

So which is better, by better i mean, stronger, more reliable, ease to work on, etc. Does faster have to mean better?


 

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its all said in jest mate, to be honest neither are that quick, its like the mk3 and mk2 thing. :laugh:

they are basically the same engine, but with different cylinder heads and usually fuel system. for these basic engines i prefer kjet, but digi would be better when supercharging,turboing. 8v easier to work on and cheaper to repair. cant really compare heads as they are completely different, obviously the 16v head is better tho :tongue:

Offline monzablue16v

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Hmmmm 149 BHP and plenty of torque, 90 in third at 4.5k, sounds better than 8v, b!tch to work on!!!!

They both have good and bad points an 8v with a G60 aye I'd have one of them but G60 on a 16v I'd like to try that!
Head and manifold make it a b!tch to change plugs and such and also 16v seems to have more setup issues!
Still glad I bought a Valver though!!!! ;)

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Offline marcogolfo

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90 in third at 4.5k,

Must be something wrong with my valver then cos im pulling nowhere near that at 4.5k
mines more like 90 in fifth at 4.5k

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This old chesnut again! Have a look at the power graph in the stick thread at the top of this board. That shows how the 16v is in no doubt a stronger engine. Power aside i would still say the valver is better because as standard the suspension is better as well as having more toys like electric windows. My opinion!

Offline monzablue16v

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Guided missile!!!! shat my pants on my way to work this morning when I looked at the speedo after flooring it off a roundabout!!!!! I mean on a racetrack legally away from everybody else :ahem:

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Offline tobz.

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90 in third at 4.5k,

Must be something wrong with my valver then cos im pulling nowhere near that at 4.5k
mines more like 90 in fifth at 4.5k

No nothing wrong with yours Marco mine sits at 90 in 5th at 4.5k
That's why I can't help but cruise at 90 coz the engine is right in it's maximum torque range for powering past people.


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Offline monzablue16v

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Just need to find a RWYB at York want to know what it's 1/4 mile time is now I'm intrigued!!!!

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Job done!!! ;)

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Offline Deefadog

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After owning both 8v & 16v kjets'  i'd say the 16v :)

monzablue16v - do me a favour when you are out today (on the track) :)

can you take note of your speeds at the same rev range for me please

let do it at 4.5k

1st =

2nd =

3rd =

4th =

5th =

I want to compare mine as i know yours is sorted now :)

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Offline shaunj

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Hi, i currently drive an 8 valve, see my thread (1/4 million miles). Iv'e owned 7 golfs, 3 of them being 16 valvers. iv'e read with amusement the arguments that rage on with which is better. In the bigger scheme of things, neither of them are that quick, and to focus soley on this is to get caught up in BADGE SNOBBERY, which detracts from why both mk1 & mk2 are such iconic cars. The answer to your question though comes down to cash and time, an 8 valver would be a safer bet to seek out due to it probably having an easier life, remember even the youngest ones are close to 15, most 16 valvers tend to be thrashed, due to the power delivery, however if you have the patience and money and are prepared to seek out a good one then a well looked after 16, would be just as good a buy. Remember in the end your buying an icon be it 8 or 16. Enjoy.