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Offline Lendo

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #60 on: 16 September 2013, 20:09 »
Noticing the more miles I do the less it seems to 'fire off forward' when restarting the engine. It's almost totally smooth now.

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #61 on: 16 September 2013, 20:28 »
Noticing the more miles I do the less it seems to 'fire off forward' when restarting the engine. It's almost totally smooth now.

My salesman told me the hold grab has a learning period and it'll ease up. Still waiting for it on mine - early days yet.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #62 on: 21 November 2013, 17:24 »
My wife is looking at new cars. We have test driven an A3 1.4 COD Stronic. The stop/start was almost unnoticeable - really quiet and smooth.

At this moment we have a Golf SE 1.6 TDI DSG. The stop/start is really annoying. It is very noticeable when the engine restarts. Yes, I know it can be turned off, but this has to be done every time the car is started. I even found myself trying not press to break too hard so the green light indicated auto hold engaged and the engine stayed on.

Is the petrol car just better at stop/start than the diesel? Is it the power difference?

I do remember the Audi salesman saying that they had the latest version of stop/start that was exclusive to them? Does that mean just Audi or the VAG group? Would an Audi 1.6 TDI Stronic be the same or smoother?


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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #63 on: 21 November 2013, 18:39 »
first day driving GTI with DSG & stop start seemed no prob. salesman told me the trick is to get the foot off the brake once stopped before the stop start kicks in, only kicks in if foot stays on the brake, that seemed to work ok.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #64 on: 21 November 2013, 18:48 »
Yeah I have just had mine a day too and love this feature of being able to override the stop start by just touching the break on stop and lift off.

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #65 on: 21 November 2013, 19:02 »
It took me a while to learn how to drive my Passat properly and come to a stop without the engine stopping. The only time when it does stop when I wouldn't want it to is manouvering. When you stop the car and shift from D to R, your foot needs to stay on the brake pedal. This means the engine stops. When it re-starts I get the feeling that people outside will assume 've stalled. Reducing the pedal pressure can prevent this happening, but if my mind is on reversing into a tight space, this doesn't always happen.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #66 on: 21 November 2013, 19:45 »
. salesman told me the trick is to get the foot off the brake once stopped before the stop start kicks in, only kicks in if foot stays on the brake
Do you not creep forward if still in 'D'?

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #67 on: 21 November 2013, 20:57 »
. salesman told me the trick is to get the foot off the brake once stopped before the stop start kicks in, only kicks in if foot stays on the brake
Do you not creep forward if still in 'D'?

No, because the Auto Hold has taken over. Even tho' it is in D, unlike a torque converter automatic it isn't trying to go, because the clutch does not engage the gear until the throttle is pressed.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #68 on: 21 November 2013, 23:07 »
Thats not how DSG works in my Roc and earlier Golfs - if you are in D it will always creep - its a design feature of DSG. Presume its been altered for the Mk.7 with this Auto hold thingy?

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #69 on: 22 November 2013, 07:57 »
Thats not how DSG works in my Roc and earlier Golfs - if you are in D it will always creep - its a design feature of DSG. Presume its been altered for the Mk.7 with this Auto hold thingy?

It will creep if you manually release the parking brake or auto-hold, just like an old auto, but if the brakes are applied by either pedal or auto hold, the mechnatronics (sp) disengage drive so the car isn't trying to pull against the brakes.

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