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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #40 on: 22 June 2013, 12:55 »
:angry: not another one  :angry:

Get in touch with VWCS and raise your concerns with them bud
If the dealer hasn't already contacted them ?

I always change my oil every 5k but makes we wonder if I should get the new style tensioner fitted, coming up to 4 years old and 50k on the clock, is this issue a ticking bomb  :rolleyes: :sad:
YES
Oil makes no difference. If you read my previous post it explains what happens.
Its simply down to a poor tensioner design.
When you turn off your engine the oil pressure drops.
Leave the car a while overnight for example
The oil pressure drops and the tensioner falls back onto its ratchet its that that fails.
Etc I expained what happens next earlier in the thread.
Its a ticking time bomb thats a very weak link that destroys engines.

Thanks for the info Snoops
Car is in on Wednesday to get some work done so I think I will get the new tensioner fitted for piece of mind, any idea of the latest version or is aftermarket a better option ? Do you think

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #41 on: 22 June 2013, 14:03 »
Mine was parked up overnight and when I returned in the morning to start it, clunk clunk clunk, fired up, clunk clunk clunk, died.

What makes it more annoying is that it was in for a service FOUR DAYS before this  :whistle:

I haven't had an opportunity to contact VW yet, but will do so on Monday. I'm just popping the rocker cover back on the engine again so it appears I know nothing.

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #42 on: 22 June 2013, 14:14 »
Mine was parked up overnight and when I returned in the morning to start it, clunk clunk clunk, fired up, clunk clunk clunk, died.

What makes it more annoying is that it was in for a service FOUR DAYS before this  :whistle:

I haven't had an opportunity to contact VW yet, but will do so on Monday. I'm just popping the rocker cover back on the engine again so it appears I know nothing.

is it DSG or Manual....does it make a difference. Mine is 2010 (59 Plate) thinking i should look into getting it replaced. what the cost?
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #43 on: 22 June 2013, 14:16 »
The engine?  :cry:

Mine's a 6sp manual

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #44 on: 22 June 2013, 15:31 »
Mine was parked up overnight and when I returned in the morning to start it, clunk clunk clunk, fired up, clunk clunk clunk, died.

What makes it more annoying is that it was in for a service FOUR DAYS before this  :whistle:

I haven't had an opportunity to contact VW yet, but will do so on Monday. I'm just popping the rocker cover back on the engine again so it appears I know nothing.

is it DSG or Manual....does it make a difference. Mine is 2010 (59 Plate) thinking i should look into getting it replaced. what the cost?
Makes no difference. It is the chain timing chain tensioner on the engine.
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #45 on: 22 June 2013, 15:34 »
 lot of the americans are buying it as a kit to fit

http://www.hstuning.com/product_info.php?products_id=3619

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #46 on: 22 June 2013, 15:39 »
Some workshop pages I scanned from Elsawin if you want to give it a go  :shocked: :shocked:
The tensioner is shown in this procedure.

Removing and Installing the Lower Timing Chain Cover

Removing and Installing the timing Chain
Shows the workshop procedure.

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #47 on: 22 June 2013, 15:40 »
lot of the americans are buying it as a kit to fit

http://www.hstuning.com/product_info.php?products_id=3619

Not a bad price but how many hours labour is it to fit?
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #48 on: 22 June 2013, 15:45 »
The americans saybit takes about 45 mins to do thw job.

Heres the part that is causing everyone a pain in the

Quote from: HSTuning;854744
Here are some pictures of the old style and new style tensioner. We have been putting the new style in engines when we are installing rods since the new style was released. The older style has a ratcheting return








You can see the ratcheting mechanism in the last picture. The retainer for that is junk and it's pretty obvious why they fail. This is the only old style we have laying around as we usually throw them right into the recycle bin, and the retainer is missing. If I can find another old style we'll make a video to show how it fails, as we have a TSI on an engine stand right now.

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #49 on: 22 June 2013, 15:51 »
What do we reckon the chances of VW doing something about it are?

I'm happy to put some % of the cost to the labour, but as it's their faulty, poorly designed part that has caused the engine to break surely they should be putting up for a new one?

Has anyone else had joy from VW with this respect, aside from the thread starter? I'm on my phone so search is a pain - thanks :D