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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #50 on: 22 June 2013, 15:59 »
Vw policy is if it does jot fail its not an issue  :undecided: they are reactive rather than proactive.
This is why a lot of tsi 1.4 AND 2.0 are getting new engines.
They did not want to know when I asked anout a proactive responce to a design issue.

Oh and I just found a diy guide to how to do it. I know what im doing over winter when mines off the road.

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55992


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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #51 on: 22 June 2013, 16:28 »
Vw policy is if it does jot fail its not an issue  :undecided: they are reactive rather than proactive.
This is why a lot of tsi 1.4 AND 2.0 are getting new engines.
They did not want to know when I asked anout a proactive responce to a design issue.

Oh and I just found a diy guide to how to do it. I know what im doing over winter when mines off the road.

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55992

Im not attempting that myself, ill ring statllers on Monday, do you need to replace with the whole kit or you just but that single part?

When did they start fitting the new timing chain part? late 2010?

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #52 on: 22 June 2013, 19:24 »
Last revision of the part I known of was late 2012 there was other revisions previously.

1x TENSIONER 06K109467K
15x BOLT timing case cover bolts N91096702
1x  Crank pulley center bolt WHT001760
1x SEALANT D174003A2
1x TIMINGCASE cover 06H109210Q
New Engine mounting bolts

The bolts are really only one time use so best to replace them.
The cover is thin tin and so can bend when been removed so is best to replace it with a new one than risk oil leaks or even worse thw case rubbing on something internally. You also get a new crank seal with the new case.
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #53 on: 22 June 2013, 20:15 »
Mine is a 59 plate and has just hit 50,000 mies, better look into this myself as well  :sad:
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #54 on: 22 June 2013, 20:34 »
I have a 29,000 mile May 2010 car & this thread worries me! However,  I'm sure that if I go into my local dealer whose principal is a good friend, they will not have even heard of this issue! I've just had some warranty work done before the 3 year deadline, but remember him saying there is a 3 month grace period where they will carry out work after the end of the3 years! Tempted to see what they say.

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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #55 on: 22 June 2013, 21:14 »
Last revision of the part I known of was late 2012 there was other revisions previously.

1x TENSIONER 06K109467K
15x BOLT timing case cover bolts N91096702
1x  Crank pulley center bolt WHT001760
1x SEALANT D174003A2
1x TIMINGCASE cover 06H109210Q
New Engine mounting bolts

The bolts are really only one time use so best to replace them.
The cover is thin tin and so can bend when been removed so is best to replace it with a new one than risk oil leaks or even worse thw case rubbing on something internally. You also get a new crank seal with the new case.


Snoopy, as you say the last revision was sometime late 2012, am I safe to assume that my 62 plate will have the latest revised version?
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #56 on: 22 June 2013, 22:51 »
From what ive read and ive read up on this extensively since I found out about it a while back and then watched a few cars on here fail.
The worst are 2009 to around may 2010 cars when there was a revised tensioner fitted which was stronger. There was a couple other rivised better versions after that. Even the 2012 one is not bullet proof.
When I was researching there was very few 2011 cars that had been effected.  Were as I kept finding one after another earlier cars. I then concluded the later cars have a much stronger tensioner design which was backed up by data of revised versions on etka.. As its not miles that ware it its stop--rest--start were the ratchet is used to hold the tension.
In all honesty if I owned a mid 2011 or later car I would not be worried.
« Last Edit: 22 June 2013, 22:57 by Snoopy »
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #57 on: 22 June 2013, 23:07 »
From what ive read and ive read up on this extensively since I found out about it a while back and then watched a few cars on here fail.
The worst are 2009 to around may 2010 cars when there was a revised tensioner fitted which was stronger. There was a couple other rivised better versions after that. Even the 2012 one is not bullet proof.
When I was researching there was very few 2011 cars that had been effected.  Were as I kept finding one after another earlier cars. I then concluded the later cars have a much stronger tensioner design which was backed up by data of revised versions on etka.. As its not miles that ware it its stop--rest--start were the ratchet is used to hold the tension.
In all honesty if I owned a mid 2011 or later car I would not be worried.

Reassuring, cheers for that info.  :smiley:
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #58 on: 23 June 2013, 12:22 »
Last revision of the part I known of was late 2012 there was other revisions previously.

1x TENSIONER 06K109467K
15x BOLT timing case cover bolts N91096702
1x  Crank pulley center bolt WHT001760
1x SEALANT D174003A2
1x TIMINGCASE cover 06H109210Q
New Engine mounting bolts

The bolts are really only one time use so best to replace them.
The cover is thin tin and so can bend when been removed so is best to replace it with a new one than risk oil leaks or even worse thw case rubbing on something internally. You also get a new crank seal with the new case.


Snoopy, as you say the last revision was sometime late 2012, am I safe to assume that my 62 plate will have the latest revised version?

Hope so, mine is a 62 plate too
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Re: Possible New Engine Needed?
« Reply #59 on: 23 June 2013, 12:52 »
Just pulled this off vwvortex:

TSB number 15-12-01

and when looked up via this link does not give me much relief as it applies to cars from 09 to 2013!!!

http://www.aboutautomobile.com/TSB/2012/Volkswagen/GTI/Others


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