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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #10 on: 17 January 2013, 21:02 »
Looking at my mates bam set up, his map sensor is mounted on a pipe before the throttlebody and has two bolt fixings. As ess says that is the air temp sensor.

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #11 on: 17 January 2013, 21:07 »
ok the no MAF i can understand there is a throttle pot its on the other side it never even registered with me that this engine should be DBW and not have throttle cable  :whistle: iv got no idea what TB it is, its got vw stamped on it. how would the ecu know the boost?? i dont really understand 1.8t's im more of a tdi man myself

So it's got a throttle pot - that's throttle angle sorted.
Air temperature you have too.
Presumably water temperature in the head as normal...
So just MAP to find.
It's got to be there somewhere...not tapped into the inlet manifold/plenum is it?

Apart from outputs to coils and injectors, that's the minimum you need to run Emerald in Alpha-n mode.

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #12 on: 17 January 2013, 21:11 »
google suggests that its an early 1.8t throttle body as the older ones were cable operated, possibly the whole inlet is from a transverse mounted 1.8t as it has a oem looking bracket under the manifold to hold the cable

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #13 on: 17 January 2013, 21:32 »
is this the water temprature sensor? if so its not connected  :rolleyes:

and heres the cable throttle bracket with what i think could be the map sensor to the left, there is a pipe going from this sensor to the bottom of the inlet manifold



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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #14 on: 17 January 2013, 21:44 »
google suggests that its an early 1.8t throttle body as the older ones were cable operated, possibly the whole inlet is from a transverse mounted 1.8t as it has a oem looking bracket under the manifold to hold the cable

Thats a TT/S3 inlet manifold...transverse mount. The longitudinal inlet manifolds are very different.
It could be an early 1.8T TB...but the cable TBs were mounted on the 150/180 inlets with the TB on the left.
RHS mounted TBs (TT/S3) were only ever DBW as far as I know.

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #15 on: 17 January 2013, 21:54 »
Thats the sensor for the VVT Tensioner, really should be plugged in, although if you are running Emerald then only they know what needs to be plugged in or not.
I would entirely re-pipe the intercooler, same diameter pipe throughout will aid in air flow.
The MAP sensor should definitely be on the pipe that runs up to the TB, but again, Emerald may not need it as the early engines didn't have em anyways.

And yes, Ess_Three is correct in saying that RHS mounted TB's were all DBW from factory, not sure if Emerald sell the TB's with there kit like Qpeng do

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #16 on: 17 January 2013, 22:28 »
Thats the sensor for the VVT Tensioner, really should be plugged in, although if you are running Emerald then only they know what needs to be plugged in or not.

Isn't VVT only an emissions aid on those engines?
Possibly not needed.

I wonder if this installation runs a lambda sensor and Cat?


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The MAP sensor should definitely be on the pipe that runs up to the TB, but again, Emerald may not need it as the early engines didn't have em anyways.

The early engines didn't run a MAP sensor?
How did they control the boost pressure?

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #17 on: 17 January 2013, 22:38 »
^^ it was a barometric pressure sensor integrated into the ecu.... so they did have a map sensor, just not one you could see lol

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #18 on: 17 January 2013, 23:31 »
a bam engine with a throttle cable?
im beginning to think that might be an aum (?) with a s3/tt manifold!

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Re: 20vt help
« Reply #19 on: 18 January 2013, 08:06 »
a bam engine with a throttle cable?
im beginning to think that might be an aum (?) with a s3/tt manifold!

Why would you think that? AUM was DBW too.