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Offline Dave_IOW

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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #10 on: 11 June 2012, 20:05 »
Am using abf mounts on mine. And an agu gearbox with a modified mk2 golf mount. Fits nice n snugg

Using AGU shafts aswell then, or 16v ones?
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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #11 on: 11 June 2012, 20:45 »
Agu but its not the easiest to get the drivers side to fit

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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #12 on: 11 June 2012, 20:56 »
Do tell, got all this to look forward too  :smiley:
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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #13 on: 11 June 2012, 21:35 »
Well. I'm wide tracked and I had to take the hub off and 2 of us to push it all back together. It may be easier on a ramp as the antirollbar will relax as both fronts are off the ground. I tried findin bigger wishbones just so that it would make it easier but didn't get any direct answers on what would fit. Passenger side slides in fine though.

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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #14 on: 11 June 2012, 23:21 »
Yeah I'm using diesel as got parts free off brothers mk3 before it went to scrap. Also its 4 bolt not 5 bolt like gti. I've already got 02a box + abf in the kr 16v frame, going to drop the lot, mate the agu to the 02a,drop both into mk3 frame using mk3 shafts etc and offer it up to the car, then remove diesel hubs for gti hubs and g60 brakes+ carriers etc. I defo need to use the same gearbox mount and bracket, starter etc,I guess that means I use 02a front bracket and mount, its just the rear bracket/mount combo I need to research. Will be using ford focus short 22mm m/c as well

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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #15 on: 12 June 2012, 09:40 »
Well. I'm wide tracked and I had to take the hub off and 2 of us to push it all back together.

Just confirm what you're using there.  I suspect you have a driveshaft from a car with a rod-change gearbox .  These are longer because the 020 gearbox is narrower than the 02A, thus the driver's shaft is about 10-15mm longer. 

I would expect what you've done is pushed both CVs in to their limit.  This is likely to give you some REALLY odd handling issues and the end of the driveshaft will batter the hell out of the flange when you corner.

In my view you need 02A gearbox and the front mount off it, plus driver's side shaft off the same.  The passenger side shaft is the same for 020 and 02A.

The question here is whether the rear engine mount combination has a different height G3 vs G2. They are totally different arrangements: the G3 is a tower, the G2 mount has two brackets either side of the mount, at 45 degrees.  The G2 'G60' mount also bolts up with three bolts on top and the G3 has a single bolt. The rear bracket on the gearbox is the same through all, I think.

If I'm honest I would be surprised if there was a height difference in the rear mounts, UNLESS there is a difference in the gearbox rear mount.
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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #16 on: 12 June 2012, 09:51 »
Already said that to him DH if it drives like a crab go back and change the flange and shafts!

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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #17 on: 12 June 2012, 11:32 »
Heh - flange.  :smug:
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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #18 on: 12 June 2012, 11:58 »
Yeah I'm using 020 16v shafts on my 02a box at the mo, and will hopefully be able to use the diesel 020 (longer widetrack?) Shafts with the 02a when I come to swap it all over, thing is I've got to change outer cv joint on current shaft, the passenger side one, will I be able to use this shaft with the mk3 subframe etc then if they're the same? (Saves wasting a new joint that'll only be a month or 2 old on removal)

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Re: Mk2, Mk3 subframe, Mk4 AGU - Does it work?
« Reply #19 on: 12 June 2012, 21:26 »
1.3 is different to 1.6 and 1.8 which is why you needed a different subframe.


Really? I thought a mk2 subframe was a mk2 subframe, just the bolt on engine mounts that differ