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Offline jmsheahan

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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #10 on: 21 May 2012, 15:30 »
I own a Beetle (late 60's so this doesn't apply to me) but I think the new rules are a tad daft. While it's true that most, if not all will be owned by 'enthusiasts' I don't see why having a second pair of eyes glance over your work every year is a bad thing. I know there have been things I have overlooked before picked up on during an MOT test.

A set of MOT guidelines tailored to older cars that accept certain tolerances are needed for a vehicle of that age would surely be better.

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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #11 on: 21 May 2012, 17:31 »
Great news  :cool: :laugh:

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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #12 on: 21 May 2012, 17:37 »
I own a Beetle (late 60's so this doesn't apply to me) but I think the new rules are a tad daft. While it's true that most, if not all will be owned by 'enthusiasts' I don't see why having a second pair of eyes glance over your work every year is a bad thing. I know there have been things I have overlooked before picked up on during an MOT test.

A set of MOT guidelines tailored to older cars that accept certain tolerances are needed for a vehicle of that age would surely be better.

Completely agree. 98% of a pre 60's car are going to be collectors/enthusiasts and will look after their car, but that minority might overlook a brake line about to break, or a top mount about to give way.

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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #13 on: 21 May 2012, 17:44 »
I own a Beetle (late 60's so this doesn't apply to me) but I think the new rules are a tad daft. While it's true that most, if not all will be owned by 'enthusiasts' I don't see why having a second pair of eyes glance over your work every year is a bad thing. I know there have been things I have overlooked before picked up on during an MOT test.

A set of MOT guidelines tailored to older cars that accept certain tolerances are needed for a vehicle of that age would surely be better.

Completely agree. 98% of a pre 60's car are going to be collectors/enthusiasts and will look after their car, but that minority might overlook a brake line about to break, or a top mount about to give way.

True balljoints on old cars fail all the time and could be overlooked and cause a nasty accident.

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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #14 on: 21 May 2012, 18:37 »
A set of MOT guidelines tailored to older cars that accept certain tolerances are needed for a vehicle of that age would surely be better.

This would be a better solution to accommodate older cars and would solve the problems for you friends Nick  :cool:
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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #15 on: 21 May 2012, 19:00 »
they might not NEED one, but try getting INSURED without one  :lipsrsealed:

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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #16 on: 21 May 2012, 19:20 »
I think its a good idea as old cars just don't measure up to current mot regulations. I think any owner of a classic car who was not mechanically minded wouldn't be silly enough to not get it at least checked over by a garage once a year. They need heavy maintenance as it is so its unlikely anything that may be deemed dangerous will go unmissed. I would say most pre 60's cars these days will be owned by enthusiasts that will keep on top of things. I think setting out new seperate mot regulations for pre 60's cars would be a waste of time considering the small percentage and the limited mileage most of them run. Most of them were death traps when they were new so they ain't going to get any better. Anyone who has tried to stop reletively quickly in a car with no servo and drum brakes all round will understand.


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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #17 on: 21 May 2012, 20:31 »
The new ruling is a good thing, self assessment, and self policing by responsible owners will not cause a problem. High end stuff, the likes of Jaguar, Aston Martin, Ferrari etc, are generally wrapped in cotton wool, and want for absolutely nothing. Low end stuff the likes of Minors, Beetles, Ford 100E's and earlier examples are dead simple to work on, and parts are readily available for next to nothing, so its not a money thing... Nearly ALL pre 60's cars run on drum brakes, so would need constant maintenance anyway, regardless of an MOT inspection.
Nearly all pre 60's cars run a separate chassis... so do not suffer the same rust problems a Monocoque would suffer! If its made it over the last 50 years, then its likely to last a whole lot longer
Lighting on ALL pre 60's cars is appalling, so N/A
All Pre 60's cars will run 2 or 3 fixed point seat belts, (If any at all!) so faulty inertias will not be a problem
Pre 60's cars have THE most basic suspension, that is pretty much agricultural with only the Trunnions on front suspension giving any cause for concern... regularly greased, they are fine for many years/miles, and there are clear warning signs long before they fail.
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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #18 on: 21 May 2012, 20:35 »
Cant see a problem myself

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Re: Pre-1960's cars now exempt from MOT
« Reply #19 on: 21 May 2012, 20:37 »
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