Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?

[R32UK]

the secret to making the R feel lighter is to turn off the esp 

its still manageable but once off it feels like there was previously something stopping all four wheels from turning. strange but true.

personally neil your car is set up great at the moment imo.... i would wait until the gti comes with the new engine and k04. Hate to say it but the ed35 is no real improvement on the ed30 if you discount the new panels 

[jdjd]

Neil, if you want to drive a tuned R your not far from me, I'm away in Mexico on Monday for 10days but after that your welcome to test mine for 30min, I'm guessing you'll boot it once and take on a corner a good 10mph faster then you would have ever dared attempted in the gti and you'll see what I mean,
 I had a stage 2 gti we were parted when it was stolen, but I wouldn't swap back now

Nothing wrong with the haldex just don't lose your bottle and let off like you can with front wheel drive and you won't have a problem, slow in fast out, golden rule

Yes it uses more fuel then a gti but your traveling faster, feels 100% more planted at 100mph + on the straights, quite simply a better car sorry folks but it is

[jdjd]

the secret to making the R feel lighter is to turn off the esp 

I see where your coming from but strange things happen when you turn it off in corners, as it's off one second and not the next, comes as a shock when it decides to just kick back in

[wigit]

Hate to say it but the ed35 is no real improvement on the ed30 if you discount the new panels 

whislt handling and chassis characteristics are pretty much similar strange as it sounds i actually find our Pirelli quite dated now in comparison (both running similar tune) in terms of looks and in terms of the quality feel, the Ed35 feels a bit more grown up, end of the day people have to get over fact the fact that they stopped making Ed30s in 2008

[dubber36]

Best of both, LCR?

Call me a snob but i could'nt go back to Seat  :embarassed:

I understand that one. My Leon Curpa in 2002 felt like a backward step after a Mk4 Golf.

[Edi35]

If it was me I would go edition35 because of heldex can do some odd things at times and thats the last thing you need on track.

+1.
I have had an R on an extened test drive over two days and it was a great car and did a back to back with my MK6 and ED30. I really thought it was a better car but IMO not that much better and not worth the extra cost, hence why I went down the ED35 route. As you will be doing plenty of mods ( due to using it for track days) the car will not be standard and this is when the comparisons then start to show up the real differences between the two models and where the benefits of weight and AWD come in to play. The way I see it is it all depends on what you want eg a car which is more track biased (ED35) or road biased (R)

[Steve30]

the secret to making the R feel lighter is to turn off the esp 

its still manageable but once off it feels like there was previously something stopping all four wheels from turning. strange but true.

personally neil your car is set up great at the moment imo.... i would wait until the gti comes with the new engine and k04. Hate to say it but the ed35 is no real improvement on the ed30 if you discount the new panels 

The Ed35 is better in every way , better cabin, smoother, looks better and drives like a dream.

[wigit]

If it was me I would go edition35 because of heldex can do some odd things at times and thats the last thing you need on track.

+1.
I have had an R on an extened test drive over two days and it was a great car and did a back to back with my MK6 and ED30. I really thought it was a better car but IMO not that much better and not worth the extra cost, hence why I went down the ED35 route. As you will be doing plenty of mods ( due to using it for track days) the car will not be standard and this is when the comparisons then start to show up the real differences between the two models and where the benefits of weight and AWD come in to play. The way I see it is it all depends on what you want eg a car which is more track biased (ED35) or road biased (R)

i'm with you, i'd end up doing the same to the R as i'm going to do to the Ed35, this was my logic for not going Rocco R given it was 4k more in spec i wanted and i'd in reality be looking at M1s or used 911s

as a standard car the R is a cracker

[simonpolly]

i have just looked at a 3dr dsg r in my local dealer, £37,500 i paid £22,000 for my gti in 2009

[dubber36]

i have just looked at a 3dr dsg r in my local dealer, £37,500 i paid £22,000 for my gti in 2009

Would that be around £22-23,000 to change then? I'd be thinking long and hard about that one.