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Offline Neil gti

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Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« on: 16 May 2012, 07:23 »
For those of you with the R ? Does it feel a lot heavier than the GTi like the R32 did to drive?

As most of you know I do quite a lot of Trackdays, do I KO4 mine or change to the R  I have been pondering about this for a while due to turbo's failing on track with the GTi TSi engines, due to lack of oil with the sump design ? Turbos have been getting staved of oil and snapping the centre shaft,
If I KO4 mine the oil starvation problem will still be there, This is why I have been thinking about the change as the R is more tuneable, more grip, etc, but does it drive like a tank like the old R32 does (IMO)

Will my vwr brakes & PS10s off the GTi fit the R ?

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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #1 on: 16 May 2012, 07:54 »
Ive test drove one only for half an hour with a salesman in the passenger and it did feel a lot heavier than the gti, i think people forget it's only around 25kg (off the top of my head) lighter than the R32 and about the same on fuel, but that 25kg is lighter at the front which makes it handle a bit better. Im sure someone with a lot more experence will know a lot more as i have said short test drive.



Edit- on VW website its saying 1521kg's ! That is a fatty, my 58 plate R32 from memory said 1515kg on the log book.
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #2 on: 16 May 2012, 08:09 »
Best of both, LCR?
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #3 on: 16 May 2012, 08:46 »
Or scirroco r
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #4 on: 16 May 2012, 08:54 »
Ive test drove one only for half an hour with a salesman in the passenger and it did feel a lot heavier than the gti, i think people forget it's only around 25kg (off the top of my head) lighter than the R32 and about the same on fuel, but that 25kg is lighter at the front which makes it handle a bit better. Im sure someone with a lot more experence will know a lot more as i have said short test drive.



Edit- on VW website its saying 1521kg's ! That is a fatty, my 58 plate R32 from memory said 1515kg on the log book.

That is a fatty !! i could not live with my old R32 for that reason !

Best of both, LCR?

Call me a snob but i could'nt go back to Seat  :embarassed:

Or scirroco r

I test drove the Scirrocco before i got the Mk6, felt a bit closterfobic and not keen on that fat Arse  :smiley:


Thanks for the replys guys, i am not easy to please  :grin:
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #5 on: 16 May 2012, 08:57 »
If it was me I would go edition35 because of heldex can do some odd things at times and thats the last thing you need on track.
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #6 on: 16 May 2012, 09:00 »
I'm pondering putting mine up for sale in a few weeks through lack of use, 1900 miles in just over 6 months if your interested.
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #7 on: 16 May 2012, 09:05 »
If it was me I would go edition35 because of heldex can do some odd things at times and thats the last thing you need on track.

Think your right bud, that was i was thinking about the Haldex.

I'm pondering putting mine up for sale in a few weeks through lack of use, 1900 miles in just over 6 months if your interested.

Never even thought about the ED35  :smiley: Is that the same engine as the ED30 ?
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #8 on: 16 May 2012, 09:13 »
Yes it's the same.
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Re: Is an R a upgrade to the GTi ?
« Reply #9 on: 16 May 2012, 09:36 »
i had an extended test drive on a Golf R where i was allowed to push it and i really liked it, whereas an S3 felt sterile VW had got the steering weight spot on, night and day a better car than a rocco, the Ed35 feels a bit more raw and unruly in comparison but thats sort of part of the way i like it, some great deals on Rs with delivery mileage