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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: Can anyone te if these are standard sized brakes?
« Reply #10 on: 03 May 2012, 19:52 »
the point to drilled discs ? 

no i wouldn't say they were their to kill your pads prematurely (if this is what you mean?)

They are their to supposedly help heat dissipation.... or thats what i believe

Drilling, or grooving is not there to air cooling, as many think...the cooling is done via the internal vanes.
Nor is it to aid heat dissipation...in actual fact, drilling probablt REDUCES the ability to sink heat as there is less metal.

Drilling, or grooving, provides a gas path to exit from under the pad surface when the pad gets hot.
This helps stop glazing and allows the full face of the pad to contact the disc.

Sadly, many manufacturers fit drilled discs as the look 'pretty' where from a longevity perspective, grooving does the same job but without  introducing so many failure points.
Ideally, a grooved disc that doesn't go all the way to the edge of the disc is best, as it doesn't provide a stress crack point...in saying that, I've never cracked a grooved disc, but I have every set of drilled discs I've ever used.

It's doubtful that you see the benefits on standard pad compounds..but go harder, and further up the heat range...and you notice the gains, as the expense of some additional noise.

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Re: Can anyone te if these are standard sized brakes?
« Reply #11 on: 03 May 2012, 21:38 »
Low speed brake squeal FTW!

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Re: Can anyone te if these are standard sized brakes?
« Reply #12 on: 04 May 2012, 06:40 »
Informative stuff as always Glen.  :smiley:

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Re: Can anyone te if these are standard sized brakes?
« Reply #13 on: 04 May 2012, 20:37 »
drilled holes do fack all for de glazing.. thats what grooves are supposedly for

all bollox IMO, plain disc and decent pads ftw
  


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Re: Can anyone te if these are standard sized brakes?
« Reply #14 on: 05 May 2012, 10:15 »
drilled holes do fack all for de glazing.. thats what grooves are supposedly for

all bollox IMO, plain disc and decent pads ftw

As explained above...the drilled holes let the gas layer escape, which prevents the temperature going even higher, and stops the glazing occuring.
Same with the grooves.
Different solutions to the same problem.

Opinions are sometimes wrong. Yours is.
The holes/grooves are there for a purpose, and to solve a problem. Not bollox at all...simple physics.

But if you are happy with plain discs, great news.


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Re: Can anyone te if these are standard sized brakes?
« Reply #15 on: 05 May 2012, 23:31 »
i think its the opinion of most people who track cars too :undecided:

although I'm no expert, id rather spend the money on high quality pads over fancy looking discs, again just my opinion, wrong or right  :smiley:

  


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Re: Can anyone te if these are standard sized brakes?
« Reply #16 on: 05 May 2012, 23:44 »
i think its the opinion of most people who track cars too :undecided:

although I'm no expert, id rather spend the money on high quality pads over fancy looking discs, again just my opinion, wrong or right  :smiley:



The trouble is, the better pads will operate at higher temperatures - where you will likely experience that same gas layer.
So you tend to notice even better gains with trackday/fast road/aggressive pads when you give the gas a way out.

That being said, if you aren't suffering with braking issues...then no need to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

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