Front camber

[liva2704]

Anyone got pics of how much camber they running on the front(with 15in wheels if possible) any a few details on how it handles,tyre wear etc.I have dialled in about -1.5 degs on mine but the top of my tyres are way in the arches,spacers neede?

[Diamond Hell]

Why are you running -1.5 degrees of camber?  For better turn in, or because you like the look of it?

If you're driving the car properly it shouldn't be a problem tyre-wear-wise.  If you're just poncing about then you're going to burn off the inside edges, pretty obviously.

[liva2704]

Im running the -1.5 deg for better turn in obviously cant see the point in it looking good if it handles like a bag of spanners lol.

[tweed]

Toe out is for better for turn in. Neg camber is for better traction in the corner.

I have mine all the way in what ever that works out to be. I have to to get even tyre wear.

[Diamond Hell]

Im running the -1.5 deg for better turn in obviously cant see the point in it looking good if it handles like a bag of spanners lol.

You would have thought, wouldn't you?

But look at the scene donkeys running mad camber, poke and stretch, with 'low 'n' slow' graphics on their cars.

Gotta do that check.

I find with negative camber the front of the car is more 'darty' on turn-in and I generally run factory settings (zeros) on the rest of the front end geometry.

[tweed]

On your next track day try 2 minutes of toe out.

You will soon realise negative camber does sod all for turn in 

[Ess_Three]

On your next track day try 2 minutes of toe out.

You will soon realise negative camber does sod all for turn in 

What?
Negative camber does...when you look at the suspension as a whole and look at weight transfer.
As you turn in, and the car transfers more weight onto the loaded wheel, the tyre is flattened into the road, rather than rolling off the tread onto the sidewall.

Turn in is just one part of going through as corner, and turn in feel, corner grip and exit traction are all linked with any one adjustment affecting all three.

If you want to do things properly, then you need a tyre temperature gun and a pad of paper, and you go from there...because just picking a figure like 2 mins toe out is about as scienticic as picking a bit of paper out of a hat.

[tweed]

Yes I agree with you camber helps turning in due to the tyre being flat on the road as the chassis rolls.

I picked 2 Minutes out the hat because that is more than enough to see how much of a difference toe out can make to turn in. It's a start point to work from.

Castor makes a huge difference too but we can't change that without adjustable top mounts.


We have a temperature gun, tyre pressure gauge, toe in/out tool for our karting. Just saying I have to get this set up perfect because we have no suspension to play with and that camber gives more grip once I am in the corner where as toe out changes the turn in completely. Changing the toe is just as affective as changing the wheel spacing.

If I need better turn in I change the toe not the camber.

[liva2704]

Ok guys thanks for the input i didnt really want it to turn into a mass debate and we all fall out about it lol.

[tweed]

Who's fallen out? 

It's good to see what others think and hear there opinions. I would like to hear more from DH and essthree so I can try it on track.