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Offline dTEA

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Reality check
« on: 04 March 2012, 22:26 »
Just been forced to give up a Sponsorship for a degree I had applied for from my current employer.  Turns out I'm expected to work 30hrs pw and then do another 32 totalling 62hrs pw which for me means no days off due to the additional study in my own time.

Non of it was properly explained prior to registering on the course and I never actually signed their contract (employers) due to no repayment fee mentioned but the repayment element was expected ie no fixed price.

I'm gonna argue the toss on this due to
  • failure to make clear legal obligations N terms N conditions prior to enrolment
  • legal requirement for non working day within 14 day period under working time directive (need to check if this is covered due to study.)
  • failure to explain the full time degree as the advert they sent out said a working degree based route!

Anyone think this is a fair expectation? They seem to think I owe them money due to being forced off the course due to having 2 kids to care for nd they don't think they should offer any more study time than the 8hrs pw they are currently giving me.

I even looked at dropping a day work but the financial implications means my son would be home alone as I couldn't afford child care for the rest of the week!!!

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Offline mcgee9t2

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Re: Reality check
« Reply #1 on: 04 March 2012, 22:48 »
they only have to give you 8 hours pw study, i only get 8 hours a week. it is alot of work and alot to take on.

the degree which you applied for was that part time or full? if its a full time one try looking into the part time ones, i do 1 12 hour day plus about 12 hours self studying at home then work too. 32 hours seems a bit high for part time.

as for being fair i can see both sides of the story here, you should have looked into things more but on the other hand they should have explained it so on so on so on.


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Re: Reality check
« Reply #2 on: 04 March 2012, 23:13 »
62 hours PW  over 7 days.     cant you do the hours over 6 days and still have a day off ?

i wouldn't complain about those hours if  someone else was paying for me to do a degree in something i was intrested in and would assist me in earning more money. 

i've been doing 85-90  hour weeks for months now. tho it is a bit to much really keep on getting told to stop it for a bit

 62 hours pw  is quite easy to manage as long as some of them are doing something you want to do and enjoy,  however if its doing something you dislike and find boreing you won't manage it.
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Re: Reality check
« Reply #3 on: 04 March 2012, 23:45 »
Seriously.... anything less that 80hrs per week and you have  no room to complain. I do over 100 every week. Put in the work and get the reward. simple

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Re: Reality check
« Reply #4 on: 05 March 2012, 06:09 »
35 hours a week. Textbook  :smiley:

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Re: Reality check
« Reply #5 on: 05 March 2012, 11:21 »
You lot ain't got a clue bout working time directive then. Have you?  There is a limit to the hours that can be expected. If you opt out that's up to you. I would never opt out as then my lot would be asking me to do over night shifts on top of the days.

Yes it's a full time course and I have two kids: anyone else actually want to see their kids grow up? Or are you single or childless?

And as for 100hrw pw :grin: don't make me laugh that's 14hr days over 7.

Plus I offered to complete over a longer term and got told no. Even thought about dropping a day but as I say, then I can't afford childcare.

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Offline Jimp

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Re: Reality check
« Reply #6 on: 05 March 2012, 11:51 »
100hr weeks do happen, especially if you're self employed. My dad and uncle have done them in the past when necessary for their business. There was a contractor at the refinery last year doing 80+hr weeks to get his job done on time. Not saying that you have to do a 100hr week or anything, but people do work those hours.
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Re: Reality check
« Reply #7 on: 05 March 2012, 11:55 »
100hr weeks do happen, especially if you're self employed. My dad and uncle have done them in the past when necessary for their business. There was a contractor at the refinery last year doing 80+hr weeks to get his job done on time. Not saying that you have to do a 100hr week or anything, but people do work those hours.

Alot of the time with contracting and self employment you are fully reaping the benifits from working these hours. My boss used to work almost douple his quota when contracting in say sthingyhorpe, aberdeen or out on the rigs simply because it was boring not to - sthingyhorpe isnt the greatest place to be stuck in digs in afterall. If you love your job you never work another day in your life...


(classic case of 'sucnthorpe syndrome' above haha
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Re: Reality check
« Reply #8 on: 05 March 2012, 12:46 »
I love my kids more and work to live not live to work :wink:

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Re: Reality check
« Reply #9 on: 05 March 2012, 13:47 »
I love my kids more and work to live not live to work :wink:

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100 hrs pw = you are stupid, gullible or are self employed and fortunate enough to be reaping the money in


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