Race with Ed35 - guess who won?

[Edi35]

This doesn't surprise me as the performance figures are very close. I used to own both the ED30 and MK6 at the same time both with DSG and the ED30 was sligthly faster of the two. It didn't make any difference who was driving which with me and Mrs it always ended up with the ED30 in front on a dual carriageway but there really wasn't much in it.

To give you another comparison when comparing to two against another benchmark the R32 my mate has a one with DSG the MK6 is identical on the road but the ED30 a little faster than that too. As the ED35 is heavier than the ED30 I don't see there being any difference in the performance between the two. I also had a few blasts against S3's in my ED30 and they were identical on the road.

Another factor will be mileage as the GTI doesn't free up fully until approx 10k and at this point it may be producing more power than when it left the factory hence the higher RR figures. I have also seen RR graphs showing the GTI with 220 ish and the ED30 240 ish but unless they are back to back on the same rollers its not really a proper comparison.

I do know that the way the GTI's and ED's produce thier power the ED's feel quicker to drive more than how they perform on the road.

So I get my ED35 tomorrow and I will have a big smile on my face but know that until its done 10k it wont be any quicker in real terms than my MK6, but we will see when I come across a MK6 or an R32 or an S3 and I will be able to let you know if its slower  

[jdjd]

35 or 30 vs S3 or Golf R, only 1 winner everytime

[KennyGTI]

 Have still to come across an R or Ed 35 in my travels! Can't wait till the opportunity pops up  

[jdjd]

I've Owned mk6 stage 2, it'll burn any ed 35 remap'd or not, however you've no chance vs an R unless it's standard, however even with a remap nevermind stage 2 you'll be burnt

[Edi35]

35 or 30 vs S3 or Golf R, only 1 winner everytime

Hmm you raise an interesting point as I have driven the R on an extended test drive over two days. This was a manual and I had the ED30 and the MK6 at the time and it definitely felt quicker through the gears but it may have been down to my rubbish gear changes but comparing speedo readings on various local trips I did it was never more than 2-3 mph up on the ED30 so I will look forward to meeting an R and I will then see if it really is any faster as it is more likely to be the same difference between the GTI and ED30/5 e.g. not a lot  

[KennyGTI]

What does a remap get the R to? 310bhp? Think it would be close! Stage 2 R would destroy a Gti Stage 2!

[Edi35]

What does a remap get the R to? 310bhp? Think it would be close! Stage 2 R would destroy a Gti Stage 2!

As the ED's, R, Cupra R and S3 share the same engine they will all map to the same power so anywhere from 290-310 is about right depending upon who's map it is.

[carl1]

This is my findings on a straight road with rolling start , gti is only a touch slower than a ed35, and its close between a ed35 and a R, the Scircco R is the fastest.    NOTE ROLLING START obviously from a stand still  R wins. You can easily give a R driver a fright in a standard gti or in fact a even slower car on the streets it, it just depends who is the most stupid

[PenguinGTI]

A std GTI will make 210 on rollers give or take 2-3%. A ed35 will make 235 give or take the same. Its as simple as that.

I did race a remapped ed30 against a revo'd mk6 GTI. It was a close call but pulled from me in every gear. Over a 1/4 I would say a couple of car lengths at most although he did have a slight jump.

Sorry but don't agree. There's plenty of evidence online to show MK6 GTI's put out 220bhp+.

As for against the mapped Edition 30, don't agree either. I've raced plenty and they are level pegging. You had plenty of issues with your map, and my friend running REVO had issues whereby his car wasn't running what REVO told him it was running.

Over a 1/4 mile a couple of car lengths translates to a huge difference between cars. I think you may be exaggerating.

[R32UK]

A std GTI will make 210 on rollers give or take 2-3%. A ed35 will make 235 give or take the same. Its as simple as that.

I did race a remapped ed30 against a revo'd mk6 GTI. It was a close call but pulled from me in every gear. Over a 1/4 I would say a couple of car lengths at most although he did have a slight jump.

Sorry but don't agree. There's plenty of evidence online to show MK6 GTI's put out 220bhp+.

As for against the mapped Edition 30, don't agree either. I've raced plenty and they are level pegging. You had plenty of issues with your map, and my friend running REVO had issues whereby his car wasn't running what REVO told him it was running.

Over a 1/4 mile a couple of car lengths translates to a huge difference between cars. I think you may be exaggerating.

there was LOTS of this going on over on the mk5 board a few years back. Many claiming their cars made bigger figures. In the end it was settled on a properly set  up DD rollers. The result??? All stock cars made almost exactly the manufacturers claimed bhp.

There are so many variables on a RR... the only way of deciding is to try before and after a map to check the difference. It really is that simple.

My car was putting out 209 bhp before revo, and 264 after. Same rollers, same variables. the ed30 was pulling on me although like I said he had a very slight jump. A mapped ED30 will make a respectful 270bhp. So like I said not much in it.