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Offline jdjd

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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #10 on: 01 March 2012, 16:19 »
more interestingly.... who is going to be the first to remap their ed35 

Be interesting to see what it makes, any company released a map for it yet?

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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #11 on: 01 March 2012, 16:23 »
No one has officially released when yet as far as I'm aware. But I was speaking to bluefin and they reckon that the ed30 software will be comparable and should take the ed35 to around 300bhp.

They've invite me up to run tests on my ed35 when it arrives   :grin:
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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #12 on: 01 March 2012, 17:19 »
Reckon he's holed up somewhere smarting about being beaten by a lowly GTI  :wink:
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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #13 on: 01 March 2012, 17:23 »
Sounds a bit like my neighbour who tells me his 1.2 Ibiza goes like sh1t off a shovel. How he laughs at the look on tailgating BMW drivers faces, as he pulls away from them without even changing down.
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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #14 on: 01 March 2012, 17:27 »
Maybe the ed35 was still being run in. Its sounds to me like you  were jellous and wanted to try and prove something  :grin:
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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #15 on: 01 March 2012, 17:37 »
Love some of the responses on here.   :rolleyes:

In standard form, on paper, the Edition 35 has a 25 bhp advantage over a standard Mk6 GTI. Given the weight of these cars, that's not alot. Side by side, you would perhaps see the Edition 35 nose ahead ever so slightly, but it's no where near enough power to pull out and pass a standard GTI. And that's going by the paper figures...

... on a rolling road, the GTI Mk6 puts out around 220bhp in standard trim. (If you don't agree with this have a search for folks that have tested them - Superchips recorded something like 230hp+ out of theirs IIRC. I've also tested my own and standard it achieved 221.7 bhp). As of yet I'm not aware of the Edition 35 outperforming VW's quoted figures, but given VW's lack of effort in the Edition 35, I'd be surprised if anything more than the quoted 235bhp was found. That narrows the gap between the cars to a mere 15bhp. Add into the mix the quicker spooling of the standard GTI's turbo and it's no surprise that the GTI in standard guise was able to match the "more powerful" Edition 35.

As for mapping both cars, well that's a different matter. Again using my own GTI as experience, against the Mk5 Edition 30 (same engine as the Edition 35), the standard Mk6 is pretty close. The horsepower figures may be marginally higher in the Edition car, but until the air flow and cooling of the cars are upgraded, the smaller turbo in the GTI does a fine job of matching the bigger turbo in the special edition cars.

On the road the two cars, with Stage 1 software, are pretty similar.
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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #16 on: 01 March 2012, 17:38 »
All the 35 owners crawling out of the woodwork to bash him :sigh:

Your cars are "NOT" fast 235bhp in hothatch terms is slow!





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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #17 on: 01 March 2012, 17:45 »
sure you didn't race a bluemotion?
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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #18 on: 01 March 2012, 17:49 »
sure you didn't race a bluemotion?

Read the post by Penguin, then it may make sense to all you non believers.  The Ed35 is NOT much faster than a standard GTI which has been proven today   :smug:
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Offline PenguinGTI

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Re: Race with Ed35 - guess who won?
« Reply #19 on: 01 March 2012, 17:58 »

Your cars are "NOT" fast 235bhp in hothatch terms is slow!

I wouldn't go quite that far  :grin:

I'm not trying to bring the Edition 35 "down", or bring the standard GTI "up". More just point out that there isn't quite the difference that people seem to think there is.