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[craigyb]

I'd love to know his address. He's just left me a voicemail saying he'll do a bank transfer this Friday???

[justalex81]

i repeat my previous statement.

when will you people learn!

[craigyb]

Thanks justalex81 but your statement and you keep repeating it is of no help

[justalex81]

Thanks justalex81 but your statement and you keep repeating it is of no help

no but it's frustrating and annoying when once a week someone comes on here crying cause they've been scammed. There are warnings all over the forum telling people not to do bank transfers and paypal gifting but people still do it.

if you want people to stop saying "i told you so" then stop giving your money away.

[golfyste]

Thanks justalex81 but your statement and you keep repeating it is of no help

no but it's frustrating and annoying when once a week someone comes on here crying cause they've been scammed. There are warnings all over the forum telling people not to do bank transfers and paypal gifting but people still do it.

if you want people to stop saying "i told you so" then stop giving your money away.

You keep repeating it on the same topic, yes I know it was stupid and I won't do it again therefor I have learnt but that doesn't change the fact that I still don't have the money and using this topic may possibly help people get it back if we can get details or someone is sucsesful so sorry but your statement isn't really helping. Its not like the same person has done it again and keeps starting new topics that he has been scammed again.
This is the first time I have been scammed and will be the last so I have learnt but your not exactly helping which is what the forum is supposed to be about

[Diamond Hell]

This is the first time I have been scammed and will be the last so I have learnt but your not exactly helping which is what the forum is supposed to be about

I think you'll find he's adding in the sarcasm, as specified in the top banner.

I somehow doubt this will be the last time.

PayPal gifts and bank transfers were WAY dodgy when I started buying clutter on forums, which must be nearly a decade ago now.

[JC]

someone didnt pay by gifting paypal or bank transfer did they,

to a stranger

from internet land

 

[JonLeeper]

someone didnt pay by gifting paypal or bank transfer did they,

to a stranger

from internet land

 

So how do you expect anyone to purchase from a site like this without sending money in advance by some means?  You could send a cheque, but guess what, once it's cashed your in the same position as before.  I certainly cannot accept visa payments so that's out so you are left with cash on delivery, but then how many people think that DHL will accept cash from the doorstep and send it back to the consignee?  You could ask for the goods to be delivered free of charge and then I'll pay later but that's just the same thing but the other way round.  At some point, if you are going to purchase from a site like this, you have to be separated from your cash before receiving goods.  There is no other way of doing it, it is simply a question of trust.  And I have bought quite a bit of stuff from the classifieds on here and, with this one exception, have been very satisfied.  You can protect yourself by doing a few checks, which I detailed earlier, but there is no certainty in this world. 

What your post effectively says is don’t buy anything from anyone on the internet who cannot accept visa or you might be scammed.  If you really live life with that little risk you must be very bored.

On a side note I have not seen anyone dripping about how awful it is to be scammed, just asking if anyone has contact details so that they can try to get either the goods they have paid for or their money back.  We all accept that we have been scammed, that’s part of the risk you run when using the classifieds and not going direct to VW, we are just trying to find a route back.  If one is not available then we will have to write it off.

[Diamond Hell]

So how do you expect anyone to purchase from a site like this without sending money in advance by some means? 

Well, there's a couple of ways.  Go to the person's house and collect is the best route I've found.  Although this is inconvenient, I'd always ask to do this first up.  If they say no way, EVER then don't deal - there's clearly no trust.

Secondly would be not using the 'gift' option on Paypal.  Because you're not sending the gift of free cash in exchange for nothing, you're sending money for services.  If they ask for that, don't deal - you're both using a service, it's not being provided for free, someone has to pay, or you won't benefit from the service Paypal have made a business out of.  Likewise for bank transfers - don't do it, you're not protected.  You may as well send money to Nigeria instead.

What your post effectively says is don’t buy anything from anyone on the internet who cannot accept visa or you might be scammed.  If you really live life with that little risk you must be very bored.

Quite the opposite - I first met DannyP and Chuff through trading.  Just as well, as the seats I thought would fit in Chuff's Golf, didn't.  He didn't buy them, wasn't disappointed and became someone who I now know as a mate - that was as a direct contact with him, but an unsuccessful sale.  Forums are social engagement first and foremost, somewhere for friends and known associates to trade second.  Go into a transaction on here on this basis and you're much less likely to get screwed, otherwise use known, protected environments to trade, even if it costs a bit more - you're buying protection.

If you can't buy face to face then take measures to ensure you're buying securely.  It really is that simple.  If someone comes out with any form of excuse not to trade with you in the way you want - walk away.  There will always be other sh*t for you to buy, but you'll only ever earn the money you're proposing to spend once and that is why it hurts getting scammed.

[Seanl]

I agree with what DH is saying actually. I never send payment by gift unless I know or fully trust the seller. On the few occasions I've bought stuff from people I don't know, I send them a message asking if its ok to send money for services and I pay the extra quid or 2 that they will incur in fees. Its not that I don't trust people, its just that I don't trust people! 
Cover yourself as much as you can when purchasing goods, if they don't get back to you, or refuse to take payment outside of a gift, you know you've had a lucky escape!