thanks guys, reading this thread motivated me to get another bike, picked up a secondhand rockhopper [ didnt know anything about mtb until i looked at piccys on this thread ] for 165 off ebay which is pretty much mint condition. ive had a short ride today to check the adjustments for my size and it feels awesome, so light and easy to pedal, i wasnt a serious off roader but used to like a trip out 2 or 3 times a week to get fit, mainly a mix of road and canal towpaths. have spent more on accessorizing than the bike