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Offline bigstring

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #90 on: 21 December 2011, 10:54 »
Very nice choice that Jack.......

350 or a 370? not a hatch but still...

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #91 on: 21 December 2011, 11:54 »
tbh i dont want another vtec you got to rag the sh!t out of them to get anywhere,i would like a 350-370 z but i need back seats and a boot having a kid a baby seat just wont fit

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #92 on: 21 December 2011, 12:48 »
From rolling it will be quicker than any VAG car in standard trim, including mine.

It's the original engine of the ST (pre-bored) but its much stronger because of that!

What about the Cupra R/ Scirocco R? Because I know that both of these cars are quicker from a rolling start than the Golf R/ S3 Counterparts.

I doubt there would be much in it tbh, the R and S3 only lose out slightly due to AWD losses. The MPS offers alot of bang once you are rolling and into 3rd onwards.

I took 2 firends out in it and asked them to compare what they thought to the remapped GTI, In their words the mazda was brutal... and would of left the GTI for dead. As the driver I know the GTI was putting out 265bhp bang on and felt it would have been much tighter.

The reason I ask is because having come across a few MPS 3s, my mapped GTI has had no problem pulling away on the motorway - and this has been against both generations of MPS 3. I've also had a few goes against them at the dragstrip and the MPS although as you say they take a while to really get rolling and get the power on full whack.

I know obviously my GTI is mapped so it's an unfair comparison (although the power is similar) but I'd imagine something like the Scirocco R would be able to deal with them.

I'd also add that when I first had the GTI a gen 1 MPS 3 tried to lose me up a slip road onto the motorway. I managed to stick on his tail and that was with the GTI standard.

Perhaps the DSG has a role to play in these results though.  :undecided:

I really like the MPS, preferred the first gen as the styling was more subtle. I've always smiled when I see them on the road as there really isn't anything obvious to tell you of the nuclear power sitting in front of the driver. I didn't know the 2.3 was the same engine as the 2.5 in the Focus hatches - does that mean that it also is a Volvo engine?


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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #93 on: 21 December 2011, 13:00 »
I dont know much about the engine, i didnt really do much looking into it before I bought one  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:


I know that they have to be run on 97+RON fuel or will not make the quoted BHP figures. Lots of people dont use the correct fuel simply because they are tight ar$e$... lets face it thats why they bought the mazda in the first place  :lipsrsealed:


They are however much more difficult to drive than the GTI, that I will say. To get and stay in the power band is no easy job! So I imagine a remapped GTI would easily keep up with one. Lets face it there isnt much in it anyway, but in the right hands the MPS is up there, but ease of use is one of the GTI's key features. It certainly isnt one on the list of mazdas.  :nerd:

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #94 on: 21 December 2011, 13:06 »
Yep, from what I've heard from the various MPS drivers throughout my encounters the car is actually quicker if you shift up well before the redline.

They are great cars though.

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #95 on: 21 December 2011, 14:03 »
They are restricted in 1st and 2nd gear, gen2 is quicker also. With the weight difference and a good driver I would always bet on the MPS over a r/Cupra from rolling. The torque is much higher. A remap can yield 300bhp an close to 400lb/ft!!

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #96 on: 21 December 2011, 22:29 »
R32 great motor and still a class drive  :drool:

Tiguan quicker than the Golf

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #97 on: 21 December 2011, 22:41 »
A mate has a white Honda Civic Type R FD2 saloon and it's the best handling fwd car I have ever been in.

Don't get a 350z.

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #98 on: 21 December 2011, 22:43 »
A mate has a white Honda Civic Type R FD2 saloon and it's the best handling fwd car I have ever been in.

Don't get a 350z.

370 is quite tasty.

Unfortunately it thinks much the same about petrol and it's a fat bastard.

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Re: hot hatch which one to go for
« Reply #99 on: 21 December 2011, 22:45 »
A mate has a white Honda Civic Type R FD2 saloon and it's the best handling fwd car I have ever been in.

Don't get a 350z.

370 is quite tasty.

Unfortunately it thinks much the same about petrol and it's a fat fatherless son.

Personally I think they look horrendous. The rear lights look like they came off a Juke.

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