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Running an ABF head on a KR block
« on: 13 December 2011, 14:27 »
I need to maintain a compression ratio of 8:1 and obviously not twit the piston crown on the valves. Would the ABF head still run on a k-jet system? If not I assume I would be better off changin to full abf megasquirt on the hydraulic clutch and corrado gearbox which aint happening.

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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #1 on: 13 December 2011, 16:57 »
why not cable clutch and mk3 golf gearbox ?
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #2 on: 13 December 2011, 17:07 »
Quote from: tech1889 on 13 December 2011, 16:57
why not cable clutch and mk3 golf gearbox ?

Because if I were going whole hog I would change to hydro. Anyhow, back to the question in hand  :smiley:
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #3 on: 13 December 2011, 18:10 »
i assume its opposite to this mate

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=143694.0

just use kr head gasket and timing belt ?
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #4 on: 13 December 2011, 18:19 »
The problem with that is that it doesnt help with cr. I need to know what the std cr is when running a std KR block with an ABF head.
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #5 on: 13 December 2011, 18:24 »
Quote from: Sam on 13 December 2011, 18:19
The problem with that is that it doesnt help with cr. I need to know what the std cr is when running a std KR block with an ABF head.

ok sorry mate only trying to help  :smiley:
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #6 on: 13 December 2011, 18:50 »
Quote from: tech1889 on 13 December 2011, 18:24
Quote from: Sam on 13 December 2011, 18:19
The problem with that is that it doesnt help with cr. I need to know what the std cr is when running a std KR block with an ABF head.

ok sorry mate only trying to help  :smiley:

No worries boss. Ideally I need somone who has done it. Apparently the ABF head has a smaller indent or whatever its called to the valves, so it gives a higher compression. But people have said that the higher compression is minimal, 0.5:1 or even 0.3:1. But then you have the choice between 1mm gaskets and 1.2 mm gaskets meaning that the increase in compression is lost. But then does a KR piston hit a ABF valve?

There is info here which is helpfull in general

http://www.not2fast.com/vw/stuff/vw_engines.shtml

but no ABF specs, but I have just seen that I may be able to change my rods for g60s but the piston dish is then different and pin is different.
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #7 on: 13 December 2011, 18:55 »
Whats wrong with just using a KR head? Its not like KR's cost a fortune nowadays. Club Gti suggests the head volumes are very simiar but of a different shape, check it out.
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #8 on: 13 December 2011, 18:58 »
I am checking it out...

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-146656.html

 :laugh: try get any info from that, its a thread of people contradicting each other
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Re: Running an ABF head on a KR block
« Reply #9 on: 13 December 2011, 19:08 »
Fair point  :grin:. Unusual for RJ to be so confused lol. If you have both heads its easy to check these things of course...... What is wrong with using a KR head anyway?
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