Justice

[Adam]

Act like a thingy, get treated like a thingy..

I was on a train home from Birmingham going to Bristol one Friday and someone complained because my music was too loud and we were in the quiet cab.. I turned it down and apologised to the old couple in front.

Later on in the journey some piss head starts gobbing off to this woman in front of me, she was white with a black kid.. He said he had just got out and was celebrating, he then proceeded to ask horrid questions like.. "Is that kid hers" "Is it his cousins from St.Pauls" etc .. I looked and he asked me "what the fcuk I was looking at".. Nobody on there said a thing.. I told him to shut up and he stood up with a 1/4 vodka and walked up to me.. I was like.. "sit down and shut up mate.." he continued to lean over me.. So I thought f**k this.. stood up and said "your upsetting this lady, will you sit back down." he said make me and went forehead to forehead with me.. That was enough for me.. He ended up on the deck with me on his back and the conductor called..

I will not do what everyone else on the train did and stand by and watch this poor woman get abused by the dregs of society.. I don't care that he was steaming, that old guy was doing his job.. You are making his job hard and gobbing off, you deserve what you get..

Too many times people will walk by and forget whats going on or not say a word.. If i get a kick-in at least I can say that I was trying to help someone out.. I cannot sit by and watch these thingys!

This, all of this!

The kid is quite obviously trying to be the big man and get away with it knowing full well the conductor can do anything about it. Corse he is going to come forward and say he did have the right ticket 

https://www.facebook.com/sammain16?sk=wall

[Gti_Jamo]

Why would you post his facebook link??

Yeah the guy had a mouth on him but it does not justify being man handled and thrown off a train. People are to quick to accept violence by means to deal with problematic people. The boy should have been dealt with through the relevant protocol especially on a train. Incidents like these can easily spiral out of control and put other passengers at risk. Common sense really.

[Adam]

Why would you post his facebook link??

Yeah the guy had a mouth on him but it does not justify being man handled and thrown off a train. People are to quick to accept violence by means to deal with problematic people. The boy should have been dealt with through the relevant protocol especially on a train. Incidents like these can easily spiral out of control and put other passengers at risk. Common sense really.

Why not? To show some of the post on his wall 

No mention of defence that he had the correct ticket just people saying he is a "local legend" and "well done top bloke"...

[Jord_GTI]

Yeah the guy had a mouth on him but it does not justify being man handled and thrown off a train. People are to quick to accept violence by means to deal with problematic people. The boy should have been dealt with through the relevant protocol especially on a train. Incidents like these can easily spiral out of control and put other passengers at risk. Common sense really.

+1


I can't understand how some people believe not paying for a train ticket isn't OK but assaulting someone is OK?
Both of which are crimes, I wonder which one carries the harsher punishment? 
Next they'll be saying Pulp Fiction isn't one of the best films ever made

[Uruk Hai]

Yeah the guy had a mouth on him but it does not justify being man handled and thrown off a train. People are to quick to accept violence by means to deal with problematic people. The boy should have been dealt with through the relevant protocol especially on a train. Incidents like these can easily spiral out of control and put other passengers at risk. Common sense really.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16143909

I reluctantly agree and now the big fella is being investigated even though there were no complaints from anyone on the train ! I have known a few cases where some one has done what everyone else at the time agrees is the "right" thing to do but when it goes wrong and the "have a go hero" ends up in court the people who supported and praised them at the time are suddenly silent and anonymous leaving the person who did everyone a favour to take the fall ?

A sign of the times we live in !

[Jack3559]

I don't see any other way to get him off of the train other than to physically remove him... He was asked politely and refused.

Why should all of the paying customers on the train have to suffer because of one selfish pond dweller?

[Jord_GTI]

I don't see any other way to get him off of the train other than to physically remove him... He was asked politely and refused.

Why should all of the paying customers on the train have to suffer because of one selfish pond dweller?

Yes he should have been removed but not launched out the door onto the floor by a member of public. The man had no right to touch him at all and definitely no right to throw him out the door. The right thing to do would have been to call the police, yes it would have taken longer and caused delays but it would have been the legal thing to do. The guy may have gotten off the train anyway once being threatened with police action.

Point is; not paying is illegal and so is assault.

[Mitching]

Not made my mind up on this.
If I was in a situation where I was drunk on a train, having bought a ticket yet accidentally shown the wrong one (I often have a lot of old train tickets in my wallet) I'd kick up a fuss, especially if it was the last train home.

If it wasn't the last train home I'd simply wait for the next one to come along 

[danny_p]

I think some of the laws of this coutry need editing,   and some peoples opinons of what theer rights are need changeing.

said kiddy is not all that inteligent he is actualy a dumb f**k had he kept his gob in order and thought before opening it, he may well have been abel to blag it.

but he chose to gob off,  and was unabel to present the correct ticket. so the default outcome is to be told to get of train. as  presenting the correct ticket is a requirement of travel,   if he did actauly purchase the correct ticket but din't have it when required this further backs up the fact he isa a dumb f**k.

also he was given plent of chances to exit the train himself but chose to sit there and try to make it to much hasstel to get him off said train, this would be fair enough if he was only inconveinceign himself and the conductor but thats not the case he was inconvinceing everyone on said train and people waiting for it and potentaly people with connections.

he also invited someto throw him of the train by saying make me  

i wouldn't call it assult ether,  he was ejected in a resonably tame manner the first time round but chose to have another go, so he was ejected with a bit more force, thats perfectly reasonable it's not like he got punched in the face or had his head used to open the door

[VeeDubGTI16v]

everyone knows you hide in the bogs when the ticket inspector comes!

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