Forza 4 Champ

[AlanD]

Oh yeah, no way should we be allowing modded cars. The best racing we had was the Audi S4 champ we did when we all had the same car, was great stuff.

[justalex81]

wednesday at 9pm i can do!

[Dolly]

wednesday is good

[admc6]

I'll be on Wednesday too

[Shady Pioneer]

Wednesday is good for me.

[Khare]

me too

[Steve_PD]

@DOA - Then golf-sib's point comes in to play, what if people don't bother with clutch/flywheel etc upgrades and just go for power increases? It would be easy to then just power past people regardless of what the gearbox and ratios were like.

For a truely level playing field forced stock everything bar gear selection choice (manual w/clutch, manual, auto) is the only way.

I'm sure after this we will be opening it up to just doing class battles like previously i.e. A class etc.

Oh and Horne, are we stipulating difficulty? I.E. simulation everything - steering, braking, damage, tyre wear etc and just having gear selection as the option?

Then you would have to limit the gear changes to manual without clutch as with clutch it gives the user a much faster lap time than someone with just manual gears. Not everyone can use the clutch in this game and the people who do have an advantage

[golf-sib]

I say we all use pagani zonda's 

No slow manual shifts then

[Dolly]

i think cars should all be stock/equal. Driver assists down to the individual.

[PenguinGTI]

@DOA - Then golf-sib's point comes in to play, what if people don't bother with clutch/flywheel etc upgrades and just go for power increases? It would be easy to then just power past people regardless of what the gearbox and ratios were like.

For a truely level playing field forced stock everything bar gear selection choice (manual w/clutch, manual, auto) is the only way.

I'm sure after this we will be opening it up to just doing class battles like previously i.e. A class etc.

Oh and Horne, are we stipulating difficulty? I.E. simulation everything - steering, braking, damage, tyre wear etc and just having gear selection as the option?

Then you would have to limit the gear changes to manual without clutch as with clutch it gives the user a much faster lap time than someone with just manual gears. Not everyone can use the clutch in this game and the people who do have an advantage

But then again if someone using manual/clutch forgets to use their clutch for a change then they can get engine damage whereas someone with only manual can't. I'd say that evens it out.

Also, in real life racing, you can't stop someone changing gear faster than someone else. In real life one person might decide to flat shift while another doesn't. It's up to the individual and therefore more realistic.