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Offline mkviken

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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #20 on: 13 October 2011, 10:20 »
personally i don't think it makes a blind bit of difference coming from bikes. a manual gearstick is hardly confusing after riding a bike. i don't think you can compare riding a bike to driving a car in any way regardless of gearbox.

my mate i used to race with just bought a new SMG bmw M3 and just leaves it in auto as he finds the paddles and sequential mode annoying too.


if i had DSG i would just use it in auto 99% of the time and 1% to use the launch control now and again.
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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #21 on: 13 October 2011, 18:26 »
Funny how some people don't agree isn't it? I think it's called an opinion and my opinion is no more wrong than yours.

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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #22 on: 13 October 2011, 19:57 »
I have DSG which is great most of the time, I don't like the way it changes down gear too readily, sometimes I want to pull in 5th but it will kick down to 3rd.

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+1 annoying at times but it dosen't really bother me to much tbo. I do 12k commuting upto London everyday and would personally always opt for an auto box as I find it easier to drive in traffic that a manual. I'd would certainly be happy to by another golf with DSG in the future.




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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #23 on: 14 October 2011, 11:03 »
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It's relevant to motorcyclist in that the gears are sequential, being able to knock it down 2 gears with two button pushes, you're also able to keep two hands on the steering wheel.

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As an ex-motorcyclist, what I like about the manual is that I can skip gears, up or down without having to go through the gears sequentially.
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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #24 on: 14 October 2011, 12:35 »
There is something deeply satisfying about using a proper sequential gearbox - the free play in the linkage as you start to shift, the resistance as you start to engage the selector drum, and the clunk as the next gear slots in with barely a lift of the throttle...be it on a bike or a competition car with a proper sequential 'box...there is proper involvement and a smile of satisfaction.

However there is nothing satisfying about clicking a mirco switch and having the feeling that you are playing on your Playstation, as with DSG.

A proper sequential box with crash down 3 gears, locking wheels or blowing the engine if you are a clot...so there is engagement there.
DSG will take 3 clicks of the 'paddle' and drop down one...then wait...then another...and wait...then, when it's ready...drop down the third.
Frustrating...even in 'manual' it only changes when it's ready.

Preventing enhine damage is a good thing, and I can accept that...but the delays? When the revs are suitable? Frustrating.

As an Auto, DSG is brilliant...as an Auto with some manual control, its good...but an automated sequential manual it is not.

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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #25 on: 14 October 2011, 17:20 »
That's odd that you are saying that you can bang it down the gears such as stick it from 5th to 3rd very quickly because mine certainly does.

Don't get me wrong DSG has it flaws, but being slow to change down gears in manual mode is not one of them.



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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #26 on: 14 October 2011, 18:07 »
My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a   :nerd:
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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #27 on: 14 October 2011, 19:00 »
My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a   :nerd:

How do F1 cars and Lamborghini's change gear again?

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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #28 on: 14 October 2011, 21:03 »
So, after 3 pages, 27 replies and 533 views, has the OP come to a decision?
Be most interested.
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Re: Newby - should I get a DSG or Manual?
« Reply #29 on: 14 October 2011, 21:19 »
My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a   :nerd:

How do F1 cars and Lamborghini's change gear again?

Oh, there's a fair comparison.
Next you'll be telling me you have a sportscar!  :grin:

How does one of the finest driving machines in the world - the GT3RS - change gear?
Oh yeah...

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