GTI cutting out, oil light flashes

[bsting]

I thinks this is the main cause of my trouble...

How do i remove the 'crank angle position sensor' ?? its the same thing as the 'crank shaft speed sender' mentioned above.
Its stuck under and behind the front engine mount/oil filter

c**t of a place

fanx

[Saffa]

bsting,

It is the same sensor.
You need to support engine, and remove front engine mount bracket. then you can just about get on the bolt ( 5mm allen key type ) and pull sender out.
Make sure the old oil seal comes out with sender and that you buy a good quality sender, or it will leak oil everywhere ( no from experience ).
Jochen.

[bsting]

Cheers matey

Will do just that and replace it with a new sensor. I will change the lead going to it at the same time.
Easy to get  that lead from wrecked Ventos (agg 8v) in nz.

[big mat]

 To everyone with this problem,

Found a solution! The Engine Speed Sensor did it. Also knowns as Crank Angle Sensor. Forget VW garages - they're clueless. They'd never even heard of the problem. So I pronted out these pages and shoved it under their nose!

I've used this forum to work out possible solutions and I've gone thru them one at a time.  First I changed the ECU relay, and then the fuel pump relay. Both made no difference.

So the next was the engine speed sensor which appears to have done it. Cost £39.99 from ECP (VW want £120!) and got my local garage to fit it. He said it was awkward to get it out. You can't see it from a ramp. You need to take the starter motor out etc etc. Anyhow, when he took it out the wires were badly mangled and you could see the cores of the wires! -The outer sleeves had been stripped away so its likely it was shorting and causing the car to just die. So my advice is........................ change this part first.

Good luck. Mat

[golgti]

mat i had the same problem but my oil light would flash and cut out tried no30relay and also no167 relay made no difference,took it a mates he had the car for a week for him to drive and see for himself what the problem was, and he changed the crank sensor and its like a new car,done 110miles in it not missed a beat. forget vw garages they have not got a clue,just like to take your money , john.

[kenji]

Jeeeese....this thread goes on 'n on 'n on, dunnit!

Here's my latest....for my just-ordered for my Mk3 gti 8v ('98 R plate......22,000 ORIGINAL miles on clock....she's a bute!)....'167' & '30' relays. VW stealers had 167 in stock, ordered '30' for collection 4 days later. Went today to pick it up......they'd ordered in another '167' !!!!!! "Sorry and worry not, mate", they said, "we'll get you one straight away, they're common, just hang on we'll phone around locally". They did. Not one to be had anywhere in a 20 mile radius!! So, question, where CAN you get the '30' relay (165 906 381)? I've tried searches online, etc, can't seem to find anyone offering it. Ken

[kenji]

Hi Guys, that last post of mine should read, at the start, '........just-ordered for my just-got Mk3 gti........'
Ken.

[golgti]

i got mine from my local vw dealer

[Nils]

hi guys been suffering from this cut out thing for ages now, happened jst couple of days ago with couple of my housemates in the car... i've changed relays, dizzy cap, plugs, leads, ignition switch... then after readin the latest solutions i thought lets try one more thing before i get rid of it... the crankshaft sensor... thought i'd ring up the stealership for a laugh BUT they said that for my engine 2E that sensor doesn't exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did notice that someone wrote if the car doesn't start straight away after cuttin out it could be the hall sender... problem is mine sometimes starts straight away but sometimes takes >15 mins  hate to say it but time to get a new car maybe type R.... any help peeps?

[Kestrel]

  Hi Jochen,and thanks for the Advice.. but my engine is a 2E, and someone on here has said they dont have the E.S.S.crankshaft sender.. Although I have replaced a small magnetic "knock" sensor,that sits in the lower part of the Block,same height as dizzy,in the centre lookin' at you... I put one on off a Jetta.. went down yesterday,fitted my newly-arrived ECU relay, managed to get it going,but far from great.. Have done the TDC/lining-up on Dizzy,got good spark,fuel.. Its just the timing... Gonna have to take it to VW,unless you got any other suggestions ?..