GTI cutting out, oil light flashes

[Rich 2]

I'll say this once only. The AGG engine is a piece of sh!t. The 2E is suprisingly a lot better.
I'm selling my golf.
Rich

[oxb1l]

HI STILL NO GOLF,
OXB1L HAS HAD A DIZZY,HALL SENSOR, KNOCK SENSOR,COIL AND AN ECU FITTED WHILE AT VW (JUST ASWELL I KNOW A MAN WHO KNOWS A MAN EH !)SOMETIMES IT SPARKS SOME IT WONT,MEANWHILE I HAVE BOUGHT A CIVIC VTI V REG NICE CAR BUT IT'S NOT MY GOLF 
I WILL KEEP POSTIN ,PS DONT BUY A VTI THEY'RE SHOCKING ON FUEL COMPARED TO A GOLF !
L8R BILL !

[big mat]

Hi

Think I've got the same problem. Going along fine and the revs suddenly drop and the engine cuts out. Happened twice so far. There's no warning. Happens when accelerating, build up the revs but then they just drop and the whole car cuts out! Happened last night in the dark after going round a 90 degree bend... it just died. Arghhhhhh! I was waiting for someone to come round the bend and straight into the back of me! Also.......in the mornings sometimes when I start it it turns over like the battery is flat. Ignition off. Back on again and its fine. Wonder if that would be part of the relay problem everyone else is talking about.

[Saffa]

Hi,

I had similar problems with my GTI.
mine turned out to be the engine speed sender, which sits down by the oil filter housing in the cylinder block. Very common fault on these engines and normally plays up when hot. normal fault is for the outer wire shield cracks due to heat and time, which then either short circuits or allows moisture e.t.c to work its way into the sender causing a signal problem.
The other item I changed just because it had started to crack was the coil, this is also a known problem to VW group.

[golgti]

HI,
 I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WHITH MY GOLF GTI 8V P REG.I HAVE NOT HAD IT LONG,SHORTLY BUYING IT THIS PROBLEM STARTED.I CAN BE DRIVING AT ANY SPEED WHEN THE REVS GO TO ZERO AND MY OIL LIGHT FLASHES ON.IT MAY START STRAIGHT AWAY BUT USUALLY HAVE TO WAIT A WHILE UNTIL MY OIL LIGHT STOPS FLASHING,THIS IS GETTING ANOYING I HAVE CHANGED MY ECU RELAY BUT STILL THE SAME ANY SUGGESTIONS PLEASE

[bsting]

Hiya

My 96 AGG 8v (simos 4s) GTI has been doing the random on and off cutout for about a year now
The best stretch with no bs was 8 months. Car was imported ex UK to New Zealand in 2001 and has 62miles on the clock.
Have done all new vag parts - dizzy cap/rotor, ht leads, coil, plugs, new battery, fuel/air filter, tb is ok, maf is ok, hall sender is ok, all the air/water/oil piping is brand new too, and vagcom brings up no faults.

I did remove the factory rubbish exhaust in 2005 (cat not needed in NZ for wof/mot) And i will replace that black #30 relay with the grey one this week.
I did try the black #30 relay from the 97 16v, but the cutout is still the same, its total death, no runon or shudder the revs just die!!!
Wait 2 minutes and then she fires up, no problem not good if you are stuck in traffic huh.

A mate of mine imports lots of mk3 golfs to NZ from Japan and this is the main cause of silly annoying faults with them on this side of the world too.
The later Variant and the Vento 97-98 also gets the AGG 8v and my mate says that the cause of the cutout issue for this engine (in most cases for him) is the CRANK ANGLE POSITION SENSOR located just below and behind the oil filter crapping out, as well as that factory black #30 relay.
The engine itself is in good nick and runs real good when it runs

Can anyone please advise how to remove this? Do i have to remove the front engine mount?
Or is it a simple 'click and twist out' jobbie?

I just want to fix this once and for all and maybe help others do the same.

Thanx muchly

[big mat]

1996 8v GTi (AGG engine)

Here's my update to the cutting out problem on my '96 Gti 8V. Took it to VAG dealer (£75 labour an hour! How much?!!) who replaced a split hose which ran into the throttle body, and the dizzy cap. Ran diagnostics again and they found a second fault, the throttle body was idling at 1300 revs and they couldn't reset it. So they said only solution is a new one. Car ran fine for about 3 days and its come back again. So back to square one.

Read this forum thru again and bought a new ECU power supply relay and fitted that but its still cutting out.

So took it back to VW dealer in Worthing. They had it all day and had no idea why its cutting out. They came up with the same suggestions as this forum! Speaks well for this forum, but not very well for dealers.

So, I've given up on VW dealers. Next I'm goign to try the fuel pump relay. If that doesn't work I'll do the engine speed sensor. (quoted £120 from VW for the part and £170 in labour and VAT. ECP want £39 for the part. Think I know where I'll go!) 

P.S.... Dealer said if I can start the car straight away after it cuts out then its not the Hall Sender unit. If it was, I would need to wait about 15 mins before starting it again. So.... its not that then (apparently!)

[boneybradley]

here's a pic showing location of sensor's on an ady engine with simos 4s injection(but agg akr similar)




Hopefully this will help people locate thing's when the problem's start but the common fault's seem to be
1 dirty throttle body
2 faulty ecu relay no 30
3 faulty fuel pump relay no167
4 hall sender
5 Crank angle sensor/engine speed sensor
6 ecu temp sensor

[Kestrel]

 I Just wanna say there is Life During a Problem,albeit prolonged,of this Nature...  I've been suffering with it for three months now, and for two of it, the Car won't even Start.. I work a lot, so Havent had a Great deal of time... Have changed, Fuel-pump-relay,Dizzy,cap,rotor-arm,HT-Leads,cleaned throttle-body,Coil is Good.. Got Good-compression,Fuel is Pumping,got good-spark.. Turns over and over... Still no-joy.. Have spent over Six hours reading-up on this Issue on here...  :embarassed:   So, plan on changing no.30 relay(ECU-£11).. Ignition switch (cheap£5?)... Check the Earth-wire under Fusebox...  Thanks to everybody who took time to contribute     Always open to any Suggestions... After the above, I will probably Pay VW the £30 they want to set base ignition timing,and clear any faults, thanks, Paul...

[Saffa]

Hi Kestrel,

Some one may or may not have mentioned this, but it went wrong on my GTI and have changed loads on cars where I work.... the part was the crankshaft speed sender. it sits down under the front engine mount in the cylinder block, and the loom down to it normally cracks open due to the heat e.t.c. Worth a look.
Hope you get it sorted soon.
Jochen.