majormajor dispute

[leigh_harty]

I dont know about the civic type r, but if their anything like the integra then they do need modifiying..... Its bloody sound proofing lol. Exceptionally awesome cars though 

[JulesS3]

I dont know about the civic type r, but if their anything like the integra then they do need modifiying..... Its bloody sound proofing lol. Exceptionally awesome cars though 

The integra is a different animal! The civic type r was hated on launch due to 'comforts and gadgets' even the DC5 is seen as having too much! 

[Mikester]

Nope a Type R is very good from the factory. Wanting and needing to modify a car are two different things. The civic is 200bhp, decent weight and handles ok standard.

I agree. Love my EP3.

[leigh_harty]

Tis an animal, mate in work as one and its 198.8 bhp. Not bad for a 14 year old 1.8

Not a fan of the fake carbon everywhere but thats just nit picking

[Lewy]

Nope a Type R is very good from the factory. Wanting and needing to modify a car are two different things. The civic is 200bhp, decent weight and handles ok standard.

My 03' Civic was fcuking awful.  As for 197bhp, it was at the flywheel, and once the gearbox had chewed 30-35bhp off of it and the complete lack of torque, it was rubbish! 

Handling in the wet, don't get me started.

[Steve_PD]

My MK4 GTi was the worst Golf i'd ever owned standard, it only got good after Coilovers, ARB's, Uprated Brakes and a remap!

I Do like a nice MK4, but for me its not an outstanding drivers machine

you only had it for 3 weeks

[RandomJord]

My MK4 GTi was the worst Golf i'd ever owned standard, it only got good after Coilovers, ARB's, Uprated Brakes and a remap!

I Do like a nice MK4, but for me its not an outstanding drivers machine

you only had it for 3 weeks

Yep... it was that bad diesel boy!

an i'll have you know...i had that car for 6 months, alright i only used it for 3 an left it standing an it got robbed...but still... 6 months!

[JulesS3]

Nope a Type R is very good from the factory. Wanting and needing to modify a car are two different things. The civic is 200bhp, decent weight and handles ok standard.

My 03' Civic was fcuking awful.  As for 197bhp, it was at the flywheel, and once the gearbox had chewed 30-35bhp off of it and the complete lack of torque, it was rubbish! 

Handling in the wet, don't get me started.

You must have had a right sh!tter mate. Handling in the wet was down to factory tyres, common problem and i agree!

Torque wasnt an issue, you change gear and keep in the power band and it has one of the best manual gearboxes fitted to a road car, didnt 'chew off' 35bhp from any RR day i went to 

[Adam]

Nope a Type R is very good from the factory. Wanting and needing to modify a car are two different things. The civic is 200bhp, decent weight and handles ok standard.

My 03' Civic was fcuking awful.  As for 197bhp, it was at the flywheel, and once the gearbox had chewed 30-35bhp off of it and the complete lack of torque, it was rubbish! 

Handling in the wet, don't get me started.

You must have had a right sh!tter mate. Handling in the wet was down to factory tyres, common problem and i agree!

Torque wasnt an issue, you change gear and keep in the power band and it has one of the best manual gearboxes fitted to a road car, didnt 'chew off' 35bhp from any RR day i went to 

I loved baiting CTRs in my Golf

[Lewy]

You must have had a right sh!tter mate. Handling in the wet was down to factory tyres, common problem and i agree!

Torque wasnt an issue, you change gear and keep in the power band and it has one of the best manual gearboxes fitted to a road car, didnt 'chew off' 35bhp from any RR day i went to 

It was brand new, and most if not all rolling roads will give you a flywheel reading to make you feel better.