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Offline apie2004

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Re: mk2 1600 ryder gearbox and mk3 2.0l bottom end.
« Reply #10 on: 02 August 2011, 17:28 »
Can't use it as choking apparatus as I've already flooged him with it  :grin: I think he's learnt his lesson!

So the engine and box are in, but I think I may have signed myself up for some engine bay cleaning tonight! You ever have that feeling that you shouldn't be friends with some people!

Shall get pictures up when done, but most of you get the jist. It's a J plate 1600 driver with a 2.0l bottom end, 1.8 head, injector holes blanked off properly, vac advance dizzy with transparent cap, oil breather filter and the Webber carb with jets to suit the new configuration.

Let's see what this disregard for the confines of the competition translates to on the road.


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He's done an engine transplant you should do a better one....ABF

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Re: mk2 1600 ryder gearbox and mk3 2.0l bottom end.
« Reply #11 on: 02 August 2011, 20:01 »
Yeah x2 on the abf. Show him there's no point changing the engine for anything less than a 2.0 16v, minimum. Then bust him up. Trust me I went from 66bhp to 160 abf, and its the bare minimum for a 'fast' mk2 if you ask me.. 20vt next!

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Re: mk2 1600 ryder gearbox and mk3 2.0l bottom end.
« Reply #12 on: 02 August 2011, 23:41 »
He's done an engine transplant you should do a better one....ABF

Rude not to - it's the same displacement, after all.  :grin:
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« Reply #13 on: 03 August 2011, 09:14 »
Right, well having lost most of the feeling in my hands after a night spent degreasing his engine bay and various items the engine looks like it'll be back in and plumbed up tonight.

Then it is ON  :cool:

ABF sounds like fun, and in standard guise we'd be looking at circa 160 bhp? Sounds like it'll be enough to make him stand up and notice. I can see this getting an expensive game though and as his 'friendly' engine installer of choice I can see myself having to fit a 20vt next  :laugh:

What are we looking at for an ABF conversion...mega bucks? On a home brew budget?


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Re: mk2 1600 ryder gearbox and mk3 2.0l bottom end.
« Reply #14 on: 03 August 2011, 11:40 »
Look for a scrap mk3 if your mk2 is late, and use digi plugged straight in.. If yours is early, maybe find an early kjet scrap mk2 16v for the management and just buy an abf lump for a couple o hundred and run it on the kjet management. Cheap + very easy

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Re: mk2 1600 ryder gearbox and mk3 2.0l bottom end.
« Reply #15 on: 03 August 2011, 11:43 »
Mines on a J so I don't think that you could get much later than that!

So having had a look through Danny's thread [I think it's Danny's] in the maintenance section, which route does having a late mk2 allow me to go?

Hoping to get his mk2 fired up tonight and see what this new engine is like out on the road.

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Re: mk2 1600 ryder gearbox and mk3 2.0l bottom end.
« Reply #16 on: 03 August 2011, 11:44 »
Standard is 150 but "with a decent exhaust and air filter" 160 is possible

Dont take that as truth, i've just seen it written alot.

Theres a few ways to do convert....http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=176689.0

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« Reply #17 on: 03 August 2011, 11:57 »
As its late (ce2 same as mk3) it'll pretty much all plug in the fuseboard. The engine loom only goes bk to a few plugs anyway. There's a little bit of adaptation to be done on the loom, rubjonny is the man for that, or he'll talk you through it if your confident enough. Search on here, and cgti, and everything you could ever want to know is at your fingertips. Just for comparison, my 9a with kr cams made 158, and the abf on the same kjet settings made 159.5 bhp on the same rollers (dyno lottery), though that seems about right from what I can gauge, maybe see a slight increase if I have the w.u.r adjusted and afr's measured and adjusted again. Search and ye shall find

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« Reply #18 on: 03 August 2011, 13:41 »
£300 should secure you a rotten Golf3 16V and then you will have the complete loom to run the motor as standard instead of all this talk of b*ggering it up with K-Jet.

If you're handy with a MIG get a collection of VAG downpipes, slice and dice and fab yourself up a 4-branch manifold. 

Even with an optimistic dyno, 160bhp from an ABF on OEM management with a tubular manifold on the back would seem low.
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Re: mk2 1600 ryder gearbox and mk3 2.0l bottom end.
« Reply #19 on: 03 August 2011, 18:54 »
Nowt wrong with kjet! Its the only thing to have not played up on my car so far! (Just majorly jinxed myself)