Car gone for remap! + Problems start

[MaXXeH]

lol also they said,    They know Nick very well from R-tech and he would have the same problem 

i was like ok 

[JC]

shut up tech1889 

tis ok, we all ignore him elsewhere too 

[RTechUK]

They said to give them a call tomorrow, so i can find out what is going on.

They have got my original file from angel tuning, so the plan was to bench my ecu and install my stock file so they can then map the car via the odb port.

They said they can’t flash the ecu via the odb due to the checksum being disabled

I don’t really get what is going on 


shut up tech1889 

Mini driver!!! Lol

Right if angel tuning remapped the car via obd port and your stock map was read via obd then the flash won't be any good for bench flashing as there will be a huge data area missing in the obd read, you need to get hold of a full BDM read which has all the map and data areas loaded.  I gave around 75 bdm version if u get stuck and if I have the correct version I can Email too you,  if you cannot find anyone with a full bdm map, then I can make one up from a generic obd stock read and the current tune read via obd.

[MaXXeH]

Thanks for your help nick very much appreciated.  I will see what they say tomorrow. If they have any problems i will ask you to send over that bdm file.

I am sure they can work this stuff out  how did they get in this business otherwise 

For the amount they are charging me i expect them to be far better than this.

[tech1889]

shut up tech1889 

tis ok, we all ignore him elsewhere too 

Much love 

[dTEA]

Thanks for your help nick very much appreciated.  I will see what they say tomorrow. If they have any problems i will ask you to send over that bdm file.

I am sure they can work this stuff out  how did they get in this business otherwise 

For the amount they are charging me i expect them to be far better than this.

Can you not just Nick??? Seeing as he knows what hes saying and has the tools to change it...plus a lot of people are happy with the maps produced??

[MaXXeH]

i would use nick, but he is so far away,  i would be able to get home.  is a right pain 

[RTechUK]

i would use nick, but he is so far away,  i would be able to get home.  is a right pain 

I would need the car for a few days, the map would have to be done from scratch, it's a huge task on it's own just to get the fuel constant correct, which involves logging long term fuel trims over driving cycles.  It's not a mapping combination I have done before so it will be a learning curve and a slow development.

[Carbon-Chiptuning]

Hi MaXXeH,

To be fair to AMD it sounds like they are doing it the right way!

For the 2.0 TFSI’s with the ME9 ECU there are a lot of different original files

SOME WITH THE SAME HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE NUMBERS BUT MOST DEFINATELY DIFFERENT FILES WITH HUGE DIFFERENCES IN THE SOFTWARE CODE AREA!

All they are doing is covering their arses rather than gambling with a customers’ car for which you can’t really knock them.

It is always best to have the original file for a vehicle than to use a tuners best guess.

With the older Golf V’s there seems to be only 1 or 2 variations for each hardware/softrware version where as later ME9’s (S3/TTS) there are way more:

0261S02721-1037501227 is for 09, 10 + 11 plate S3/TTS and so far we have found 5 different versions of original file with the same Hardware and Software numbers!

They have massive differences in the software code area.

Nick (RT) is right though, the Maps locations and values are generally the same so provided you have a read out of the file currently in the car and compare the maps with another original with matching hardware/software numbers you could ‘make’ an original but this would always be a last resort for us.

I suspect what’s happened with AMD is Angel tuning have locked out the OBD read function meaning they can only get the hardware and software numbers but no actual OBD read and for the reasons stated above it would be a risky process to flash another file into it without  being able to see what is currently in there. Perhaps they are trying to avoid having to remove the ECU?

Also, size of file depends on what tool you use for OBD read and write............ most tools only read a partial file hence the need for ‘full BDM’ read out as suggested by Nick, we use CMDFlash for these which reads/writes  the full 16Mbit (2048k) file via OBD ;-)

239HP sounds like a good file BTW – does it drive nicely on the road, good linear power delivery?

Keep us all posted.........

Nick – Carbon Chiptuning

[RTechUK]

Hi MaXXeH,

To be fair to AMD it sounds like they are doing it the right way!

For the 2.0 TFSI’s with the ME9 ECU there are a lot of different original files

SOME WITH THE SAME HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE NUMBERS BUT MOST DEFINATELY DIFFERENT FILES WITH HUGE DIFFERENCES IN THE SOFTWARE CODE AREA!

All they are doing is covering their arses rather than gambling with a customers’ car for which you can’t really knock them.

It is always best to have the original file for a vehicle than to use a tuners best guess.

With the older Golf V’s there seems to be only 1 or 2 variations for each hardware/softrware version where as later ME9’s (S3/TTS) there are way more:

0261S02721-1037501227 is for 09, 10 + 11 plate S3/TTS and so far we have found 5 different versions of original file with the same Hardware and Software numbers!

They have massive differences in the software code area.

Nick (RT) is right though, the Maps locations and values are generally the same so provided you have a read out of the file currently in the car and compare the maps with another original with matching hardware/software numbers you could ‘make’ an original but this would always be a last resort for us.

I suspect what’s happened with AMD is Angel tuning have locked out the OBD read function meaning they can only get the hardware and software numbers but no actual OBD read and for the reasons stated above it would be a risky process to flash another file into it without  being able to see what is currently in there. Perhaps they are trying to avoid having to remove the ECU?

Also, size of file depends on what tool you use for OBD read and write............ most tools only read a partial file hence the need for ‘full BDM’ read out as suggested by Nick, we use CMDFlash for these which reads/writes  the full 16Mbit (2048k) file via OBD ;-)

239HP sounds like a good file BTW – does it drive nicely on the road, good linear power delivery?

Keep us all posted.........

Nick – Carbon Chiptuning

239HP sounds like a good file BTW – does it drive nicely on the road, good linear power delivery?  Thats with a k04 turbo s3 injecotrs.

I know AMD also have a CMD, should have access to the CMD data base which will have the full stock file listed for download. And with Med9 as long as the Bosch numbers, hardware numbers and software numbers all match there will be NO issues. Infact its even worth flashing the car with the latest sw version if the tuner has the file to hand which will have the highest S00** number for is the tuner IDs 1K0907115F S0009 then the better files would be S0019 which is the latest dealer update.

Your file will be one of the following, this is a my database to the lastest dealer sw versions if a car come in with a later software version we would upgradet the get to the very latest sw version then map the car using the correct version. 
There is no such thing as a stock map unique to a customers car.