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Offline Keithuk

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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #20 on: 13 August 2011, 01:39 »
Can I buy the new LED fittings and put them on to a GTD without errors?
Read through some older posts but never found the answer?
Why the hell do you want the number plate illuminating brighter so the cops can read it easily?

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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #21 on: 13 August 2011, 09:38 »
Can I buy the new LED fittings and put them on to a GTD without errors?
Read through some older posts but never found the answer?
Why the hell do you want the number plate illuminating brighter so the cops can read it easily?

Upgrading the number plate lights to LED on the Volkswagen Golf, Jetta, GTI, R32, Rabbit and Passat

Perhaps like the majority of us he has nothing to hide  :rolleyes:

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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #22 on: 13 August 2011, 11:00 »
A guy over here retro fitted the OEM ones to his GTD last week and initially they worked fine, but strangely after a day or two he got the bulb-out warning. He's looking now to see if there's a fix for it via VAGCOM.
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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #23 on: 13 August 2011, 12:30 »
I looked into this, in fact I had the lights but have sent them back, VWUK had loads of stock when I last looked (part number is now 1K8 943 021C)

Unless you have the latest BCM with HW VER 103 and SW VER 650 or above you will need to add resistors even with the cold diagnostics turned off in VCDS.
If you look at this thread the final outcome was by adding 82 Ohm 25 Watt resistors it cured the bulb out warning.

There is also a mention of setting BIT 7 in BYTE 17 of the BCM, which is undocumented in VCDS, has worked for some of the latest BCMs.
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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #24 on: 13 August 2011, 22:10 »

Why the hell do you want the number plate illuminating brighter so the cops can read it easily?



Although I must admit they look a lot better, that was my first thought as well.

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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #25 on: 14 August 2011, 01:25 »
Perhaps like the majority of us he has nothing to hide  :rolleyes:
I've got nothing to hide but the standard number plate illumination is adequate.
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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #26 on: 14 August 2011, 11:48 »
Perhaps like the majority of us he has nothing to hide  :rolleyes:
I've got nothing to hide but the standard number plate illumination is adequate.

But in this day and age of LED's and clear white bulbs, yellow bulbs look very out of place  :sick:

For me they smarten up the rear end  :smiley:

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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #27 on: 15 August 2011, 00:24 »
I ordered some genuine VW ones but they've still not landed  :rolleyes:
Doc, Any news? Did they work out the box or did you have to fit a resistor to load the cct.

Ive already tried the VW Leds and they generate the dreaded warning light!!!!!!!

Any body want to buy em????
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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #28 on: 16 August 2011, 20:39 »
I ordered some genuine VW ones but they've still not landed  :rolleyes:
Doc, Any news? Did they work out the box or did you have to fit a resistor to load the cct.

Ive already tried the VW Leds and they generate the dreaded warning light!!!!!!!

Any body want to buy em????

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Re: LED Number plate fittings
« Reply #29 on: 19 August 2011, 20:45 »
I installed the OEM numberplate Led's a couple of weeks ago hoping that the un-ticking of the "numberplate cold lamp check" would bypass the "bulb-out" thats common with led lights

After this didnt work, I searched the net and found a thread on the TEX about a guy that did a similar install in the states

What I liked about this OP's install is that he found a way around the resistors that used to get too hot and required mounting inside the cars bodywork etc

His theory was that by using a larger resistor, you reduce the % of total capacity drawn and in return reduce the surface temp of the resistor

For my application I made use of 56Ω/50W resistors which are rated at 300C surface temperature

The OEM bulbs used on our cars draw roughly 5W (4.7W to be precise) vs the OEM Led's that only draw 1W, which results in the dreaded "bulb out" warning

This indicates that an additional draw from the resistors of 4W each will be required

This is only roughly 10% of the resistor's full draw which will result in a surface temp of around 10% of the maximum 300C

What this indicates is that the max temp of the resistors will be around 30C + ambient (35C max), thus 65C which is not enough to come close to melting our bumpers and makes it safe for storage in the bumper void

Down to business

I went ahead and ordered the following parts:

Two (2) of each of the following:

- 1J0 973 702 (female plug)
- 1J0 973 802 (male plug)
- 000 979 131 (repair wire)
- 000 979 132 (repair wire)
- 50W/56Ω power resistor

The resistors used with some heatshrink to further reduce chances of melting





Assembling of the wires are easy, the only thing to take note of is that with the female plug you need to remove a purple clip before inserting the wires and then refit after insertion to keep the wires in place



With the male plug, after inserting the wires you need to push the purple tab down with a small screwdriver to clip the wires in place



Assembled they look something like this





Now you have to join the wires together, I recommend spreading the individual copper strands and intertwining them, word of caution, ensure that you join the wire coming from plug point 1 (one) on the one plug to wire 1 (one) from the other plug, these numbers are clearly indicated on the plugs themselves





Now just some soldering and heatshrink and bobs your uncle







Test fitting



They tuck into the bumper cavity very nicely, drove around for 30mins and pulled them out and was able to touch them easily, little warm but nothing drastic

So if you want the OEM Leds and dread the "bulb out" warning, these are an easy plug and play sollution
« Last Edit: 19 August 2011, 20:48 by racingfreak »