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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #70 on: 05 March 2005, 00:53 »

would only increase top speed as 5th gear is generally a bit tall for most engines (they are more often overdive gears), in any gear upto 3rd all cars can be burried into the red line with or without tuning (revlimited cars aside), if you want to go faster in each gear without changing gear or diff ratios (wheels too) you can only do this by adressing the reasons why you have a red line.

maximum revs are governed by factors such as

mechanical stress of components ie how fast they can be spun before they disintegrate (a 1" square area of clutch basket on a motorcycle which is alloy has an effective weight of ?around a ton @ 1400 rpm due to centrifugal force).
the strength of the con rod to hold the piston (very high rpm but another reason for short skirt and alloy pistons).
the length of stroke of the engine (the longer the stroke the faster the piston has to move hence the greater the stress), (this also governs power to torque to a degree depending on tuning, generally a short stroke=high power but lower torque, and vice versa)

keeping pistons and valves seperate, so....
the strength of valve springs and valve bounce.
the duration of valve opening.
the valve timing (hence vernier cam gear)
(ducati use a system to overcome this called desmodue which basically consists of a lever both opening and closing the valve)
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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #71 on: 05 March 2005, 00:55 »
Well i dont agree with Carrie shes a Trick

no, shes quite mechanically gifted actually. you were out of your depth with her the moment you started typing...

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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #72 on: 05 March 2005, 00:56 »
^^ i am in full flow today ?:grin:


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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #73 on: 05 March 2005, 00:58 »
they still havent realised that when they replace an item on a car that effects performance and sticks on a new "performance" part, the increase they seen is probably very similar to that if they had just put a new part on.

and considering golfs are getting very old, its not suprising "my new K&N makes the car go faster".

anyway, who in their right mind spends money on their car and doesn't get a performance increase? its a p-e-n-i-s thing i think.

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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #74 on: 05 March 2005, 09:36 »
my motorbike does about 90 mph in first gear. but the engine wouldnt last long if you do it all the time as higher revs=more bore wear etc as the engine is moving round more per mile
90mph in first gear ????? then you woke up.. unless you got a 500cc scooter, constant mesh gearbox.
i used to be a biker sorry about going off subject, but i find that hard to believe sorry
unless you got a hyabussa with one gear? :undecided:
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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #75 on: 05 March 2005, 16:04 »
ok you win i looked it up.

On the other hand, the Kawasaki-comparatively high revving and with a narrower powerband-has a closer-spaced gearbox with a taller first gear (85 mph)

was a whole 5 mph out could change the rear sprocket i suppose.

and the hayabussa can only get 80 in first


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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #76 on: 05 March 2005, 17:39 »
thats ok carrie, your forgiven.. ha ha ha ha and hello
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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #77 on: 05 March 2005, 18:01 »
ragged my bmw today to get an idea of top speeds in second i got about 65 bouncing it off the rev limiter, and thats was with 2.8 straight 6 (forgot to add 5sp manual). it seems 2nd gear average is around the 60 mark, would be intersted to see what others get in second as i am curious now.
oh and hi peewee? :smiley:
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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #78 on: 05 March 2005, 23:41 »
Whoooaaaa, tinman was on a mission to put the subject straight!!!!

Hungover, or pissed off by any chance???

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Re: K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!
« Reply #79 on: 05 March 2005, 23:57 »
So to all the people out there who say putting on a performance part doesn't make a differnence, well i think it does because i have to use an extreme example now, if i put a Ferrari F40 engine in my golf GTI i think that counts as a performance part and YES i would notice the F-ing difference- so just coz the K&N induction kit aint on the same levels as an F40 engine y would it not make the car faster? Can anyone answer that? And dont put stupid answers down jus coz i said an F40 engine thank you :evil:
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