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Jimmymature

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Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« on: 28 January 2011, 11:11 »
Why don't VW (or do they) offer a performance upgrade that does not invalidate the full manufacturer’s warranty?

Before getting my GTI I looked at getting a Focus RS with the Mountune MP350 kit.  This kit does not impact the Ford warranty at all in fact the dealers fit it for you.

Looked on the VW R website but doesn’t look like it has the manufacturer’s warranty.


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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #1 on: 28 January 2011, 12:14 »
No such thing exsists in the VW stable that I'm aware of.

Mercedes use BRABUS of course  :wink:

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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #2 on: 28 January 2011, 12:24 »
Not yet but due to emmisions alot of companys are going down this route. Fiat have done it for a while, as has ford and vauxhall. I had hoped with the intorduction of the R devision at VW that it would coma about but so far they have only done the body kits.
« Last Edit: 28 January 2011, 12:26 by Snoopy »
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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #3 on: 28 January 2011, 13:55 »
Not yet but due to emmisions alot of companys are going down this route. Fiat have done it for a while, as has ford and vauxhall. I had hoped with the intorduction of the R devision at VW that it would coma about but so far they have only done the body kits.

Any rumours of them thinking of doing it?


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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #4 on: 28 January 2011, 16:12 »
In Germany Oettinger (and to a degree Abt) have a sort of factory backed warranty on their upgrades. In some countries where VW don't actually fully own the importer there are 'official' tuners.
Many years ago before VW fully took over the import franchise in the UK, GTI Engineering had fully backed conversions, but in those days you only got a one year warranty anyway. GTI Engineering's 'offshoot' BR Motorsport (BR= Brian Ricketts who was the engineering brains behind GTI Engineering split from them and formed his own tuning company) subsequently had SEATs backing back in the nineties for their conversions, not that they sold many.

I can remember from my days on cupranet back in the early noughties that Oettinger remaps were dyno proven to be very conservative next to the then recently emerged REVO, APR et al.

I think VAG increasingly steer clear of this stuff due to many obvious and probably some not so obvious legal reasons.
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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #5 on: 28 January 2011, 16:20 »
Didn't Erik van voorst have his remap done by his dealership? I know he's not in the uk but perhaps it may be worth a mention, ABT rings a bell. :undecided:
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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #6 on: 28 January 2011, 19:16 »
Some VW dealers offer the VWR upgrade, (remap to 250bhp/380Nm, new exhaust and air filter).

£1499.99. Fitted including VAT

also VWR sport springs (20mm lower ride) £599 fitted.


This was last year , I presume they still do it though the price may have changed.
Ask for VWR performance Upgrade Pack at your dealer.
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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #7 on: 28 January 2011, 20:24 »
Yes my VW dealer offers that VWR kit but its not VW approved it says so in the small print. Dealers can sell anything they like, my old local SEAT dealer in the past sold REVO for example.
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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #8 on: 28 January 2011, 20:31 »
My dealer tried to sell me this 3 months from new.

The brochure states "Most importantly, the VWR Upgrade Package comes with a full mechanical warranty to ensure that your car cover matches the remaining Volkswagen supplied warranty on the car".

If it was just the remap and filter and I didn't have to rip out a nearly new exhaust system I would have gone for it.
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Re: Warranty Backed Performance Upgrades?
« Reply #9 on: 28 January 2011, 20:36 »
My dealer tried to sell me this 3 months from new.

The brochure states "Most importantly, the VWR Upgrade Package comes with a full mechanical warranty to ensure that your car cover matches the remaining Volkswagen supplied warranty on the car".

If it was just the remap and filter and I didn't have to rip out a nearly new exhaust system I would have gone for it.
Key word to me is what do they really meen by matches  :wink:
Heres the website of my local dealer and the upgrade package.
http://www.pulmanvolkswagen.co.uk/vwr/about.php
Under the FAQ section

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Is the manufacturer's warranty affected?
Yes it is affected, which is why each VWR Upgrade Package includes additional warranty coverage. The VWR Upgrade Warranty covers only those aspects of the engine and drivetrain that can be proved to be affected by the fitment of the upgrade package. All other aspects of the vehicle's standard Volkswagen warranty are unaffected.

The VWR Upgrade Package supplementary warranty will exactly reflect the duration of the Volkswagen warranty supplied with the car, consisting of a two-year/unlimited mileage manufacturer's warranty and a third year warranty with a 60,000 miles limitation. Full details of the warranty coverage is provided in the warranty booklet, and will be supplied with each VWR Upgrade Package.

In other words, and im a bit synical here, if something fails watch them both say its not covered by their warrenty its covered by the other companies  :grin:
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