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Offline jimmyhodge

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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #30 on: 19 January 2011, 17:17 »
I think they look awesome mate give it a go if it works great if it breaks revert back to standard  :smiley:

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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #31 on: 19 January 2011, 19:13 »
let us know how you get on with it,   if they are orsum i'll make some for mine
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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #32 on: 21 January 2011, 12:34 »
Can't see pic's at work but I was bidding on a set of trick wishbones and subframe a few months back and missed out. Contacted the seller and he offered to send me the spec's so I could make some up myself. Unfortunately he never managed to send them out to me :undecided:

Having spoken to my engineer mate, he too, suggested that rose joints would get eaten on the road. :sad:

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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #33 on: 21 January 2011, 15:12 »
Well there's only one way of finding out  :wink:
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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #34 on: 21 January 2011, 18:26 »
Well there's only one way of finding out  :wink:

Too true, and as I'm home now I can confirm that it was an almost identical set I was bidding on. Good find :cool:




Pssst, if you take some measurements and pop them over to me that'd be great too :grin:

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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #35 on: 21 January 2011, 20:04 »
nice!

can't really see an issue with the rose joints, you will just have to change them regularly. i bet the car will tramline everywhere though, avoid the slow lane on the motorway  :laugh:

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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #36 on: 21 January 2011, 20:33 »
sorry for acting dumb but what and why are rose joints classed as so bad ?? and if they bad cant they be replaced with something stronger ??
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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #37 on: 21 January 2011, 21:37 »
Rose joints are exceptionally precise, but don't have the shock absorption that rubber bushed joints have, hence they're not used in regular production cars.

Due to the increased number of faults in the road on public roads, vs race tracks the precision is less of a benefit and more likely to result in damage to the car.
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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #38 on: 23 January 2011, 14:55 »
Well there's only one way of finding out  :wink:

Too true, and as I'm home now I can confirm that it was an almost identical set I was bidding on. Good find :cool:




Pssst, if you take some measurements and pop them over to me that'd be great too :grin:

When I get a minute will do a detailed measurement of everything and see if I can get a descent diagram on the go so people can manufacture there own. Will PM you them when i've done it can't garantee when that will be though Neo as builders are in up our place so everything has been hiden and placed in a safe place to avoid damaging anything. You know what some builders are like,i'm so on edge about them damaging my god damn car! :angry:

Also this car isn't a daily,far from it. At the end of the day unless you have ever tried to use rose joints on the road you'll never know how they perform,you are only going on peoples engineering views and in my experience most engineers are brilliant at what they do but have you ever asked one to make you a cup of tea or do a really simple task that involves little or no skill. . . You'll nearly always find they are hopeless! Most engineers and I loosely use the term most don't use common sense ,they are like scientists almost.
I've made rose-jointed wishbones for my mates road/track cars with very good results! Having done my research before purchasing this already manufactured subframe featuring rose jointed suspension I can argue they aren't as bad as people make out!
Obviously you are not going to get the longitivity you get from a standard bushed set up,they are designed with basic handling in mind and to last.

With this wishbone set up I can guarantee the ride will be firm but not as firm as people will imagine,with a descent set of well set up coil-overs out front you won't get the flex you get with bushes,when you sling it into a corner the body won't roll,you'll get more feeling through the steering as to what's happening out front and in practice if something un-towards happens there's more chance of saving it as with a bush set up it gives you a false feeling to certain extent.

I'm sorry Diamond Hell but I disagree fully with it doing damage to the car. I can't see how it could unless you really did have a badly set up suspension set up and the rose joints were left dry. I will be fitting grease nipples to the joints so regular servicing will be done to prevent damage. Surely if what you are saying is they can damage the car due to a more firmer ride,no matter what car you are in if you hit a pot hole wrong it will damage any vehicle.

I'll record the mileage I get out of this set-up and we'll see what happens but i'm confident it can never do damage to the car no matter what happens ( PARKING IT IN THE HEDGE DOES NOT COUNT...)
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Re: tubular wishbone
« Reply #39 on: 23 January 2011, 17:35 »
you are only going on peoples engineering views and in my experience most engineers are brilliant at what they do but have you ever asked one to make you a cup of tea or do a really simple task that involves little or no skill. . . You'll nearly always find they are hopeless! Most engineers and I loosely use the term most don't use common sense ,they are like scientists almost.

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