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Offline RedHP

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ACC...?
« on: 14 January 2011, 23:40 »
My bad was to not add the ACC option to my custom build  :cry:
I am doing approx 15,000 miles a year, mainly motorway and am suffering !
I asked my dealership if there was anyway that they could install this option, but they said that this wasn't an aftermarket option (basically, tough titties for me !).
Does anyone know if the ACC option is available after market....? I'm not holding my breathe (as chassis etc is affected), but wish I could have it !! (Or wished I ordered it, damn !!!)

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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #1 on: 14 January 2011, 23:52 »
My bad was to not add the ACC option to my custom build  :cry:
I am doing approx 15,000 miles a year, mainly motorway and am suffering !
I asked my dealership if there was anyway that they could install this option, but they said that this wasn't an aftermarket option (basically, tough titties for me !).
Does anyone know if the ACC option is available after market....? I'm not holding my breathe (as chassis etc is affected), but wish I could have it !! (Or wished I ordered it, damn !!!)

Red

Would surely be impossible to retrofit.. :( Have you looked into something like KONI FSDs?  I think they might make the ride more comfortable? Is it really that bad though? I have ACC on my manual GTI and I'm currently looking for a DSG - can't find one with ACC in my price range though.. So was considering going for one without it..

Trouble is I do keep mine in comfort all the time apart from ultra smooth / newly laid roads and 'fun time' :P And I do think it's a great option..

I never remember thinking the ride on my MK5 was hard though, or wanting comfort dampers (granted they weren't available then!) Can anyone who's owned both comment on the harshness of the ride between the Mk5 and standard MK6 GTI suspension? Is there any difference?

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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #2 on: 14 January 2011, 23:58 »
Nuts, I'm on the M1 and A-roads for 35 miles one-way, everyday. Believe me, it is not easy................!
All I had to do is agree to pay an extra £700 (list price) for ACC...........why was I so stupid enough not to go for this..............!???????????
Now I pay the price..........!
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #3 on: 15 January 2011, 00:01 »
I have my car in 'comfort' mode all the time. It is pretty unbearable in 'normal' mode in London Town. I hate being jiggled all the time. Had enough with my Honda Type R and damaged my neck with all the jolting! Best option I specced IMO.
If you don't spec ACC, stick with the 17"wheels.

Sorry Red, I know that this does not help, but the thread below will make you laugh. Those were happy times when members seemed more relaxed.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=145704.0

If you do a search there is quite alot on ACC.
Ess_Three, I think, wrote some interesting posts regarding this option.
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #4 on: 15 January 2011, 00:11 »
Nuts, I'm on the M1 and A-roads for 35 miles one-way, everyday. Believe me, it is not easy................!
All I had to do is agree to pay an extra £700 (list price) for ACC...........why was I so stupid enough not to go for this..............!???????????
Now I pay the price..........!

Hmm - It sucks not getting an option you later regret missing out on.. :( Esp with the long wait on these cars - I brought mine used but waited for one with ACC (I even went for a scirocco before as it's standard on them..). I'd love to spec a new GTI as really wanted Dynaudio too - but bugger me if I'd wait a year!

ACC is good - and kinda 'takes the edge off' bumps etc. I'm not sure it would totally solve your problem though.. The springs are the same at the end of the day and while I'm no expert they must have a lot to do with the ride comfort?

Here are the FSD's I was talking about (I have no personal experience of them though..)

http://www.koni.com/190+M57d0acf4f16.html


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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #5 on: 15 January 2011, 00:16 »
Thanks Nuts, I've got to give other options a try !

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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #6 on: 15 January 2011, 05:50 »
I had Koni FSDs on my mk5 Golf. Not sure if they will fit a mk6 but you'd think they wouldn't be too difficult.
They were actually very good. Made the ride a lot more comfortable than the 40,000 mile old dampers they replaced anyway. Only downside is the damping sometimes allowed the bumpstops to be put to use on very undulating roads when tanking on a bit.

I didn't actually pay for them either, despite the fact I was considering buying a set. I won them in a competition in Volkswagen Driver mag. So if anyone has a copy of October 2008 (I think it was October anyway) you can see my ugly mug (and my sexy Steel Grey GTI  :drool: ).
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #7 on: 15 January 2011, 09:16 »
I never remember thinking the ride on my MK5 was hard though, or wanting comfort dampers (granted they weren't available then!) Can anyone who's owned both comment on the harshness of the ride between the Mk5 and standard MK6 GTI suspension? Is there any difference?
I think so yes. I have done about 30K in a mk5 with 18" monza IIs on and 50K in a mk5 with 17s on over 5 years. The mk6 with 17s on with standard suspension feels much harder than the same mk5 over the past year and 3K to me.

ACC retrofit will be very complicated. Remember it connects to the steering as well, has quite a few sensors wiring, new dampers etc. It would be very expensive to do.
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #8 on: 15 January 2011, 09:37 »
I had a MK5 and now have the MK6 with standard suspension.

The ride is slightly harder than the MK5 but then I'm comparing a car that had 70k miles on it when I sold it and a new one.
As soon as I took a test drive in the MK6 it felt much tighter ( :tongue:) but it was new..

I have no problem with the standard setup on 18's but I don't do any Motorway miles, all A and B roads.

A set of ACC shocks from the dealers is about £600, but as Snoopy said there is the wiring and control modules as well.
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #9 on: 15 January 2011, 10:40 »
I find ACC pretty good in 'Normal'...I use 'Comfort' in cities with potholed roads and speedbumps...and 'Sport' on a decent blast as I like the sharper steering that comes with 'Sport'.

I imagine ACC uses no additional sensors above what's already there - the steering angle sensor is part of the ESP so it's easy to pick that off the CAN-Bus...
I'd imagine that adding the ACC controller, looms and dampers and having it all activated would do the job...it's only 2 wires to each damper after all...the adjustment of the steering will be done by the steering controller and I'd expect it to have the software already there, just not activated.
Who knows though.

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