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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #10 on: 15 January 2011, 11:08 »
I ment to add. When i was looking to buy a mk6 i asked advice from a forum member on another website who worked at a VW dealership, he told me how much harder he felt the new mk6 ride was on standard suspension compared to the brandnew last of the line mk5s they had in at the time. He recomended that i go for ACC if i was going for the 18s as he had done with his company mk6.
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« Reply #11 on: 15 January 2011, 12:27 »
My MK6 definitley feels harder than my MK5 did - but then my R is 20mm lower than a GTI and also has 19" wheels (18's at the moment though!).  I've got ACC and usually have it on comfort or normal unless I'm out for a blast.  I don't remember the R that I test drove feeling too hard though - and it didn't have ACC.

Maybe its just the roads that are getting worse though  :rolleyes:
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #12 on: 15 January 2011, 13:29 »
In a GTI pre-launch write-up in Car, the chassis engineer Ulrich Sonnak was interviewed by the magazine. His goal was to sharpen the Mk6 GTI even further whilst working within the constraints of the Mk5's architecture. The anti-roll bars are a bit thicker, which naturally tightens body control. They contibute to a chunkier feel through the steering on turn-in. So there is a better sense of grip and more confidence. The spring rates are also firmer.

Thus the Mk6 may have a harder ride than the Mk5.

It is for this reason I ordered ACC.
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #13 on: 15 January 2011, 13:36 »
In a GTI pre-launch write-up in Car, the chassis engineer Ulrich Sonnak was interviewed by the magazine. His goal was to sharpen the Mk6 GTI even further whilst working within the constraints of the Mk5's architecture. The anti-roll bars are a bit thicker, which naturally tightens body control. They contibute to a chunkier feel through the steering on turn-in. So there is a better sense of grip and more confidence. The spring rates are also firmer.

Thus the Mk6 may have a harder ride than the Mk5.

It is for this reason I ordered ACC.

Hard Ride? I've just got out on an Audi A3 S-Line.  Compared to the A3 the GTI is like a limo for me  :cool:



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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #14 on: 15 January 2011, 13:39 »
In a GTI pre-launch write-up in Car, the chassis engineer Ulrich Sonnak was interviewed by the magazine. His goal was to sharpen the Mk6 GTI even further whilst working within the constraints of the Mk5's architecture. The anti-roll bars are a bit thicker, which naturally tightens body control. They contibute to a chunkier feel through the steering on turn-in. So there is a better sense of grip and more confidence. The spring rates are also firmer.
Thus the Mk6 may have a harder ride than the Mk5.
It is for this reason I ordered ACC.
Hard Ride? I've just got out on an Audi A3 S-Line.  Compared to the A3 the GTI is like a limo for me  :cool:
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #15 on: 15 January 2011, 14:45 »
^ It depends on the age imo, those both have changed a few times over the years. Car makers don't just stop developing a model when it comes out.
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #16 on: 15 January 2011, 15:59 »
I went straight from a mk5 to a mk6 both with 17".

The mk 6 (ACC) in normal mode seemed about the same (maybe slightly harder) as the mk5.

The mk6 in comfort mode turns into a mini limo. Smooth, comfortable and relaxing ride.

Sport mode when the mood takes. :evil:
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #17 on: 15 January 2011, 18:35 »
As I've got nothing better to do at present, I've decided to write a thoroughly long post and bore the pants off you. But I humbly request you to read it as it may provide some possible clarification.

I have driven the following Mk6 Golfs on dry roads:

(1) Golf Match, manual, petrol, 16" wheels, no ACC - Not pretty
(2) Golf Match, manual, petrol, 16" wheels, ACC - Not pretty
(3) Golf GT, petrol, 7 speed DSG, 17" wheels, ACC, after I took delivery of my GTI. Loked just about OK.
(4) Golf GTI, manual, 17" wheels, ACC - Best for ride + handling + looks
(5) Golf GTI, manual, 18" wheels, no ACC  - Wooden spoon
(6) Golf GTI, manual, 18" wheels, ACC - Best for very good looks + handling + reasonably good ride - My car!
(7) Golf GTI, DSG, 18" wheels, ACC - Same as (6)
(8] Golf R, DSG, 19" wheels, ACC - I don't know how an R with 18" wheels would feel. What power! Amazingly planted.

I told you I have time on my hands plus an excellent memory! So enjoy the sojourn while it lasts!

Before we discuss the merits of ACC, I found Cars Nos 3, 7 & 8 most unsatisfactory due to their DSG transmissions. Maybe it is a question of getting used to it. These cars kept changing gear at the most ridiculous of times for the down shift and progress tended to be, to put it mildly, strange. But enough of DSG as it has 3 currently running threads, which will run and run until we are blue in the face. Self edited as could be considered inflammatory. :evil: :grin: :tongue:

So back to ACC.

On London roads, I ranked them as follows for ride quality:

(1) Car No 2 & 3, ACC comfort mode
(2) Car No 1
(3) Car No 4, ACC in comfort mode
(4) Cars 6 & 7 felt the same in ACC comfort mode as they should
(5) Car No 8 a bit too hard for London roads even with ACC in comfort mode. But what power, he says again!
(6) Car No 5 was unbearable. Gets the wooden spoon. :sad:

So from my limited experience, the nugget in the above range for ride quality with good looks and handling prowess is car No 4. However, very good looks are also important, so I ended up ordering car No 6 - My car!

Lastly, a Golf with 16" wheels will win no beauty contest and was out of contention.


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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #18 on: 15 January 2011, 19:19 »
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That's my choice too.

Perfect blend of comfort, style and fun :smiley: :evil: :smiley:

And the bluefin puts it nearly on a par with the R, for power/torque anyway, no 4WD obviously so only under certain circumstances, mainly on a straight and already moving....
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Re: ACC...?
« Reply #19 on: 15 January 2011, 19:27 »
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That's my choice too.
Perfect blend of comfort, style and fun :smiley: :evil: :smiley:

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I personally would like to have the 'comfort' as the 'normal' mode, make the 'comfort' mode even more comfortable, and leave the 'sport' mode as it is, it being useless for this country.

I also think that as this country fast approaches its third world status especially with respect to its roads, the German manufacturers should start producing cars for the UK of similar suspension to those for the real third world countries. Though some of them have better roads in their cities than us.
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