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Offline Adam

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Re: k-jet on bike carbs?
« Reply #30 on: 27 December 2010, 21:18 »
Late entry for the most informative post in 2010. :afro:

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Re: k-jet on bike carbs?
« Reply #31 on: 27 December 2010, 21:53 »
LOL! thanks! i have learnt an awfull lot over the years but sadly its cost me a few cars and engines so im only too happy to advise where i can, unfortunately i know maybe 3% of what the guy who has been teaching me recently does (matt @ tour-de-force power engineering) which as it turns out is plenty enough to make a 2litre 8v go very nicely, if not actually hugely quickly..... but 165lb/ft, 152bhp and a trio of 14.9sec passes at the pod are pretty damn good for home brew, especially as one of my earlier efforts was a 2litre pinto (capri four pot roughly equivalent in age/type to the vw motor) which had a mental big valved head, wild cam, expensive mechanical distributor, nice manifold, blah blah blah and it drove like a pig stuck in another pig, really, it was awfull, less power/torque everywhere, about 9 to the gallon, pain to start, total guff. It doesnt have to be expensive to get a usefull gain from a road engine without compromising reliability, and to be honest they are all much of a muchness in that the same principals apply- find the restriction, remove it without weakening anything, calibrate to suit. obviously a true race engine will cost true race money and as power rises the usefull life of the engine will get shorter but it isnt a problem as long as you play it safe, 140-150 hp out of a 2litre 8v is pretty tame when you consider the 16v equivalent is doing that as standard, likewise 180 or more out of a valver is commonplace for some makers too, as you aproach the magical 100bhp/litre the long term durability will fall if you use it constantly but really that wont happen on the road will it? much more than that and some form of supercharging will be more cost effective unless you are in a race class that wont allow it... and so on.

while i'm in the mood the best way to make an engine last is to ALWAYS warm it up before you drive it hard (twin chokes make this sooooo easy too), keep the filters clean, do preventative checks and maintenance rather than spoiling things and being hit with a big bill and crucially use good oil and dont let it get dirty- a good engine is like a good woman, cleanliness is next to godliness but proper lubrication will save a lot of red faced swearing!




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Re: k-jet on bike carbs?
« Reply #32 on: 28 December 2010, 15:40 »
I don't disagree with ne of the information giver, and I do know about the spark. As I have already said though, if it doesn't work how I want it to work then I will just put the k-jet back on and start with a new idea. And I never said I was puttin a lamba senser put in. To be honest if it can still beat a civic type r with bike carbs on then al be happy with it.
Liam

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Re: k-jet on bike carbs?
« Reply #33 on: 29 December 2010, 11:31 »
if you are definitely happy with a full throttle blaster then carbs + dizzy should be setuppable, obviously you will be setting to give best available performance over the last 2-3 krpm at full throttle and will probably have to make compromises elsewhere, as long as the engine is safe at the times when not optimised (rich is safer than lean, retarded spark is safer than advanced) there shouldnt be a problem as long as nothing is too far out.

the autosport labs link i posted has a few interesting threads on the subject of vacuum lines from port throttles - a few people have done experiments as joining 4 pipes to one dizzy can give funny pulses etc so they have devised a few ways around this, most of which involve a little plenum, worth a look anyway. likewise the books go into great detail on the effects of advanced/retarded cam timing which if you are lucky can be used to move the peak torque a little towards where you want it, or if things get tricky can be used to make the engine breathe less heavily at a point where detonation has become a problem, plus of course it goes into huge mind-bending detail on carbs themselves, how they work, the importance of gas velocities etc so that would still be a sound investment.

hope some of this is usefull, and happy tinkering- you should be able to drill type R's into the floor as they are er ghey (small torque plus big revs = hollow power imo)

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Re: k-jet on bike carbs?
« Reply #34 on: 29 December 2010, 18:49 »
Yeh ep3 typre rs. Never bothered wotha slower new one.and I'll have a look through that cheers for the info and such
Liam