EVERY FWD is set up to understeer - BECAUSE IT IS CONTROLLABLE.
Not every FWD car is set to understeer at all.
How many have you driven?
Do you actually drive? Or just read things on the internet and sprout them as fact.
Ever driven a Clio Cup / Integra Type R/ 205 GTI?
They don’t understeer. Understeer is dialled in by VAG
OMFG - are you insane? You asked me why I chose to ignore your statement about ESP - when you HADN'T mentioned ESP? How am I supposed to comment on something that you haven't even said?!?!
Because it’s standard on the cars. A bit like having 4 wheels…and I don’t need to tell you that.
ESP changes things…a fact you conveniently choose to ignore…and this is the Mk6 GTI forum, is it not?
So all cars have it fitted…a bit like seats, an engine and 4 wheels. We don’t need to mention it because we are all clever enough to realise the GTI comes with them.
I REALLY don't understand your problem. You claim to have "years of experience" and are preaching on and on, but can't understand, how, in wet/slushy/snowy/icy conditions that a car could loose grip - EVEN with ALL of your years of experience and electrical aids.
You don’t read so well do you?
Any car can lose control, if driven by a bellend in a manner totally unsuitable for the consitions.
You drive a Mk6 GTI with winter tyres on the front (a car you evidently have Sooooo much experience of) in a suitable manner, and you will be no more likely to have an accident than a car with no winter tyres on…and you will still have the ability to pull away and brake.
That’s from experience. Not the internet.
You honestly baffle me. You make it sound like its not possible to have an accident in GOOD conditions with tyres that are actually balanced front/rear at 30 MPH, let alone in winter conditions.
There is no reason ANY accident should occur at 30 MPH in good conditions if the driver has a decent sense of awareness and a reasonable level of driving skill.
Actually, in winter, cars don’t just have accidents…accidents happen due to exterior inputs…make sure those inputs are measured, drive accordingly, and there is no reason ANY accident should occur at 30 MPH in winter conditions if the driver has a decent sense of awareness and a reasonable level of driving skill.
You know for a fact that what I am saying is correct - but I don't know why you can't actually agree?
I’ll not agree with anyone so unbelievably stupid as to suggest you are better off with winter tyres on the rear, and chooses to ignore the fact that you’ll not actually get the car moving, with them on the rear.
I hear all the stuff about balance…but you claim to have tried winter tyres…you try telling me that the difference in grip is so huge that the car will snap oversteer in normal driving? It’s utter crap. Winter tyres are an advantage...not a miracle cure for no grip.
I don't know whether you are choosing to ignore this or not, but I keep saying, fitting winter tyres on the rear - will not in any way enhance the overall grip in snow. No, you won't be able to put "pull out the drive", no, you won't be able to climb hills, and yes, you will get overtaken by other drivers with winter tyres on the front. They won't enhance your winter driving experience one bit, BUT the key difference is that you haven't altered the way the car was designed to drive.
Ahh…so your advice is to fit them on the rear, and stay stuck in the driveway.
We’ve gone full circle.
Utter genius.