Winter Tyres

[Ess_Three]

Its nothing to do with aquaplaning - its to do with having no traction at the rear, compared to the front.

Liken it to driving round a car park with plastic trays under your rear wheels, it makes for a very unpredictable and uncontrollable driving experience.

Lets keep the example simple, and try your analargy reversed.
Lets put the plastic trays under the front wheels...and see you explain how this aids traction/safety in snow?

Oh..I get it. It's uber safe because you don't move.
Legendary.

[am1w]

Its nothing to do with aquaplaning - its to do with having no traction at the rear, compared to the front.
Liken it to driving round a car park with plastic trays under your rear wheels, it makes for a very unpredictable and uncontrollable driving experience.

Lets keep the example simple, and try your analargy reversed.
Lets put the plastic trays under the front wheels...and see you explain how this aids traction/safety in snow?
Oh..I get it. It's uber safe because you don't move.
Legendary.

Brilliant Glen. Could not have said it more eloquently.

[p3asa]

Out of curiosity does anyone know whether Michellin would fit 2 winter tyres at the front or the rear?

I know any time I have went to get a new Michellin tyre from Costco they always put the new tyres to the rear regardless of any pleading from myself. They say Michellin will not allow them to fit the front only as all the traction is from the rear and just refer you to the numerous notices on the wall.

I know this is for summer tyres but just curious if anyone has got their winter tyres from Costco?

[Jimble]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYjIDvSdzHQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Further to Rolfe's post and an example from the manufacturer.

[Ess_Three]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYjIDvSdzHQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Further to Rolfe's post and an example from the manufacturer.

I think you'd better contact the foxy little redhead and tell her she's fitted them to the wrong end of the car.
She's far less likely to have the rear end swing round whilst sitting wheelspinning, stationary, on a snowy uphill road, if she fits them to the rear.

[Jimble]

 

[Ess_Three]

I can understand the original idea that replacing one tyre, of a known tread and compound, with a new version of the same, should involve fitting the 'new' or more heavily treaded tyre to the rear (although, not an idea I agree with or comply with)...

But when fitting winter tyres, you are replacing both the tread pattern and compound (and in many cases differing diameters and tread widths) with something designed to work to a completely different set of parameters.

It makes NO sense at all, fitting tyres with a rubber compound and tread pattern optimised for use below 7 degrees C and/or snow, to the rear of a FWD car...and I don't care what anybody says...it's illogical and bloody stupid.

Front, or all 4....on a Golf.

[am1w]

This is the price of Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3 winter tyres from mytyres.
Gone up by nearly £100 in 1 week!

Pilot Alpin PA3 235/40 R18 95W XL with rim protectionleiste, GRNX
Our price only £338.50

 
 

[rjwojcik]

Just come back from work and ooops, seem to have started something.  On the front wheel drive touring cars, I've heard that when the back starts to loose grip the driver will press on even more and let the front of the car drag it's way out of the slide.  But I would hope that even with winter tyres fitted you would still be cautious on normal roads.  The additonal comments tickled me, as I was eating my supper on a tea tray. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYjIDvSdzHQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Further to Rolfe's post and an example from the manufacturer.

O, I watched this and did like those gloves, I wondered what she was up to at first but soon became apparent    Black would have been nicer

[Ben Lessani]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdtAm7RsTmE

Note what happens around 1m30 on the next video (this is your front winters + all season rears)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cBSWEhimdA

Yes, you are right, you'll move around a damn site faster with winter tyres on the front - and for this very reason, your the one likely to get caught out.

And, in the eyes of your insurance, I could bet that you would be liable for any accident given you set the car up in a deliberately dangerous fashion.

Slide sideways into a car - and it was you that lost control.
Slide straight into a car, and its open to interpretation.

Like I said, fit 4 and there's nothing to worry about.

And the logic that "you've been fine so far" is childish, I've never had a car bump - so with that logic, I could happily downgrade my insurance to theft and fire only.