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Offline Justins145bhpMK1

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #20 on: 10 February 2005, 09:02 »

Well im going to try it by swapping the maf with one off a mates car and see what happens before buying a new one.


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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #21 on: 10 February 2005, 09:12 »
Your airflow meter could be to blame. As I understand it the ECU probably relies on the throttle position sensor for load if it's disconnected. See if you can log some voltages under different loads, you should see a fairly linear reading between 0 and 5v. On my '97 idle is around 1.32v, higher load 4v+. If you're not seeing the higher end (or lower end, if the sensor starts at 5v), then your car will not run very well under load.

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #22 on: 10 February 2005, 10:01 »
I had another thought. If you're cruising in 3rd/4th and stab the throttle to the floor, does it hesitate? If you do the same test again but gently accelerate does the problem go away? If so check the throttle position voltages, you may not be getting the acceleration enrichment that you need and going lean.

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #23 on: 10 February 2005, 11:14 »

YEs the car does do exactly what you described when crusing ie hesitates. Unfortunately Phil im not quite as Technical as you and have no idea what you are on about regarding the voltages!!!!! My skills go as far as unbolting bits and putting new ones on!!!!!!

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #24 on: 10 February 2005, 11:18 »
Where in the country are you? Can anyone get hold of a proper workshop manual as used in Dealerships?

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #25 on: 10 February 2005, 11:20 »

Im on junction 14 of the M1, newport pagnell. Dont know of anyone who can get hold of such a manual though.??

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #26 on: 10 February 2005, 11:42 »
Just a thought...

Is anyone with our stuttering problems running their engine with an aftermarket induction kit fitted (such as 'K&N')? If it is and air intake problem we are all having, would one of these units make any difference in any way?

My problem has seemed to improved (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=14233.10) over the last two weeks for no reason. Its gone from messing up every 50 miles or so, to about 150/200miles.

I dont know about everyone else but my problem is intermittant, when the problem happens if I switch the engine off and back on its fixed for another couple of hundred miles. Because the problem isn't happening when its switch on in the garage the diagnostic it shows up 'no fault'. It rather annoying at ?20 a go. I need to plug the diagnostic m/c in when the problem is happening before the engine is restarted. I've seen a basic fault finding unit for golfs in CPC for ?18. Has anyone used one of these and if so are they any good?

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #27 on: 10 February 2005, 12:03 »
I bought VAG-COM , and it works very well , but you need to beg/borrow/steal a laptop really .


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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #28 on: 10 February 2005, 13:22 »
Justin - I'm only down in Uxbridge, so I don't mind helping you out, in fact I could try and find the fault with mine, drop me a mail if you need further help.

Resevoirfrogs - A filter panel shouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. I friend of mine had a 2001 Cupra that was playing up. Took it to AMD who diagnosed it as the MAS because of a aftermarket filter. They said the oil had damaged the element. I can see where they are coming from with a hot wire MAS, IF the filter was over-oiled. K&Ns should be pre-oil and shouldn't find it's way to the MAS. He had Coil On Plugs on that model, one was faulty.

Intermittent faults are the most difficult to trace simply because they can only happen days, if not weeks apart. This is what happened to mine, probably 10 months ago. If would cut out all of a sudden once in a blue moon. Wait 2 minutes or so and then fire up and been fine for 2 or 3 weeks. Now you can't drive it more than 5 minutes. Don't waste your money on Diagnostic test, if your haven't found a code on the first one, you're unlikely to find one at all. Cleaning out throttle bodies, fuel injection cleaner etc is also a waste of time. If the car cuts out, and I mean one second it's fine (driving or idling), the next it's dead, it's electrical, normally a sensor. If it's more of a case when you pull up to a junction and it slowly dies and starts back up ok, that's another issue, something to do with your idle speed, throttle position sensor or clutch switch (this tells the ECU you're likely going to be idling shortly as you've just disengaged the clutch).

adyh - A laptop isn't a problem, what's the VAG-COM? Does it show all fault codes? Newer cars will have to be able to display Emissions and Emission Codes for the MOT, so you're be able to buy a tester from Halfrauds or a like. The trouble is, that's all they're legally bound to show, so the other fault codes can only be read by a VAG Card. I assume the Mk3 shows all codes?

I work on MX-5s as my business (www.performance5.com), but may be I should offer a service to Golfs, seeing as there's quite a few problems, and it's cost people money on parts that clearly don't need replacing!!! Where can I obtain a Factory Service Manual from?

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Phil

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Re: Praise be, Think ive found the cure to stuttering/stalling
« Reply #29 on: 10 February 2005, 13:50 »
http://www.ross-tech.com/

you can normally buy a lead from E-bay for about ?40 . [it needs opto isolators in it  ]

the software can sometimes be found on the web .  :wink: