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Offline cняis

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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #20 on: 10 October 2010, 13:24 »
I average 32.7, Im sure I read that theres a 5th gear that does 70 at just over 2000 rpm? 

in an 8v? christ i was getting 42mpg in my old one!


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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #21 on: 10 October 2010, 13:34 »
I average 32.7, Im sure I read that theres a 5th gear that does 70 at just over 2000 rpm? 

in an 8v? christ i was getting 42mpg in my old one!

yeh... although, if I drive a REALLLY long way on the motorway, I can get it around 40 mpg

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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #22 on: 10 October 2010, 15:01 »
" Very little point in changing"

I disagree.

I have an 0.75 5th gear cog in my AUG box. The standard one was 0.89, so the revs have dropped from 3500 @ 70mph to about 2800 rpm @ 70mph. What I've noticed is obviously a decrease in acceleration but an increase in mpg. Having spent 18 months travelling 90 miles a day (the reason for the swap) I recorded the following:
44 mpg @ 70 mph.
41 mpg @ 75 mph.
37 mpg @ 80 mph.

The revs (and power) are really too low @ 60 mph although the mpg is up near 50 or so.

The gear cog came out out of a 4T box. Mattneck has tried the same thing, although he was unlucky with his gearbox that broke. If I did the conversion again I would look for a 0.80 gear. This would give better economy (than stock) and a little more acceleration. Although having recently had her tuned she pulls well enough in 5th for me. Definately don't go for anything longer than the 0.75 though - you'd be going nowhere on the motorway.
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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #23 on: 10 October 2010, 15:08 »
Oh yeah, the box cost me £15 of ebay with a 1.6 engine attached to it, needless to say the rest went for scrap. As I was having my 2nd gear syncro replaced the dude just swapped the 5th gears during so it didn't cost me extra.

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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #24 on: 10 October 2010, 17:11 »
do a quick search, i asked this a few years ago and got good answers.

I just never followed through on it, as i couldn't be bothered. If i crunched motorway miles, i reckon the savings would have been worthwhile

Searched again using your username, no luck again, maybe it doesnt go back that far?  :undecided:

Im well up for doing it, I just wanna make sure I get the right gearbox to get bits out of. 




http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65025.0

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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #25 on: 10 October 2010, 18:52 »
" Very little point in changing"

I disagree.

I have an 0.75 5th gear cog in my AUG box. The standard one was 0.89, so the revs have dropped from 3500 @ 70mph to about 2800 rpm @ 70mph. What I've noticed is obviously a decrease in acceleration but an increase in mpg. Having spent 18 months travelling 90 miles a day (the reason for the swap) I recorded the following:
44 mpg @ 70 mph.
41 mpg @ 75 mph.
37 mpg @ 80 mph.

The revs (and power) are really too low @ 60 mph although the mpg is up near 50 or so.

The gear cog came out out of a 4T box. Mattneck has tried the same thing, although he was unlucky with his gearbox that broke. If I did the conversion again I would look for a 0.80 gear. This would give better economy (than stock) and a little more acceleration. Although having recently had her tuned she pulls well enough in 5th for me. Definately don't go for anything longer than the 0.75 though - you'd be going nowhere on the motorway.


Ah awesome, so are 4T boxes easy to find?  are they on any 1.6?

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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #26 on: 10 October 2010, 18:55 »
do a quick search, i asked this a few years ago and got good answers.

I just never followed through on it, as i couldn't be bothered. If i crunched motorway miles, i reckon the savings would have been worthwhile

Searched again using your username, no luck again, maybe it doesnt go back that far?  :undecided:

Im well up for doing it, I just wanna make sure I get the right gearbox to get bits out of. 




http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65025.0

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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #27 on: 11 October 2010, 08:29 »
I'm not sure if they are on all 1.6L, the 4S has a the same 5th gear too. Alternatively if you went for a 0.80 cog, they are in CHE boxes which come out of mk 3 golfs so maybe more chance of finding one of them.

Just nose on ebay and here, someone somewhere will have one for sale.
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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #28 on: 11 October 2010, 19:35 »
A CHD box with a 0.75 5th gear. In Kent but if its cheap enough have it shipped.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mk-3-vw-golf-td-diesel-gearbox-/160490539637?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item255dfb4a75

They are about, hopefully a little closer than this one.. :smiley:
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Re: different 5th gears?
« Reply #29 on: 12 October 2010, 22:38 »
Just picked up a mk3 1.6 box for 25 quid. 
Is that a 0.80 yeh?