Ok cheers, think ive confused you, i havnt broke any bolts as of yet, but was just saying if i did brake a bolt then thats what id have to do, which i dont want to do.
, theres 4 bolts which are 13mm, ive just managed to get one off, but it isnt coming out even though the nut is off. I was looking at it and it doesnt even look like its holding the subframe to the car or anything. Its the two bolts in the centre of the pic.

And will I have to undo this bushing to get subframe out as it looks like that bolt bolts to the subframe, if only one bolt is left to undo on the wishbone i may aswell take them off and treat them as there rusty too!
