Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs

[PenguinGTI]

 

I know. I must say we have developed ourselves into more of a GIT forum than a GTI forum. I love it...

+1 and brilliant play with the logo.

Merci

[JonnyG]

But yet a dsg will still be slower round a racetrack........

How do you work that out ?

Neck and neck in this shootout, with the DSG edging it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROqVLz4z8M

[carl1]

But yet a dsg will still be slower round a racetrack........

How do you work that out ?

Neck and neck in this shootout, with the DSG edging it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROqVLz4z8M

Female driver

[Ess_Three]

How do you work that out ?

Neck and neck in this shootout, with the DSG edging it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROqVLz4z8M

Much depends on your driving style.
For me, any advantage DGS may have on the straights is eaten up by it's unpredictability and lesser ability to engine brake, so overall it's no quicker  - but more frustrating.
No doubt, given enough time, you'd adapt.
I'm just not sure I want to....I want a car to work with me, not me have to adapt to work with the car.

I'd say it's fairly easy to accept DSG is faster off the line, and through the gears when it decides to kick down.
Faster point to point is probably as much a factor of confidence and understanding as it is DSG/Manual.

Personally, I find the DSG better on the diesels, as it needs to change gears less...and it just seems to always be in the perfect gear.
Sadly, not so on the GTI I borrowed.

[am1w]

.... Much depends on your driving style.
.... I want a car to work with me, not me have to adapt to work with the car.
.... I find the DSG better on the diesels, as it needs to change gears less...and it just seems to always be in the perfect gear.

Perfectly put especially the comment in red.

[PenguinGTI]

.... Much depends on your driving style.
.... I want a car to work with me, not me have to adapt to work with the car.
.... I find the DSG better on the diesels, as it needs to change gears less...and it just seems to always be in the perfect gear.

Perfectly put especially the comment in red.

+1

I love my DSG but I do agree with you

[am1w]

.... Much depends on your driving style.
.... I want a car to work with me, not me have to adapt to work with the car.
.... I find the DSG better on the diesels, as it needs to change gears less...and it just seems to always be in the perfect gear.

Perfectly put especially the comment in red.

+1
I love my DSG but I do agree with you

And I agree that you agree with me/us.
BTW have you looked at the Racoon and Carbonskin websites? Your reactions on the Warp Wrap thread please!

[JonnyG]

I guess Formula 1 has got it wrong then 

Quote :-

The gearboxes of modern Formula One cars are now highly automated with drivers selecting gears via paddles fitted behind the steering wheel. The 'sequential' gearboxes used are very similar in principle to those of motorbikes, allowing gear changes to be made far faster than with the traditional ‘H’ gate selector, with the gearbox selectors operated electrically.

[JonnyG]

For me, any advantage DGS may have on the straights is eaten up by it's unpredictability and lesser ability to engine brake, so overall it's no quicker  - but more frustrating.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one

I find the DSG excellent for braking and engine braking.  On a high speed straight coming to a hairpin bend you can brake hard and flip the left paddle a few times for perfect down changes to get engine braking and never have to take your hands off the wheel. I find I can brake later as a result.  In manual mode you are in control of the gear changes. 

[Ess_Three]

I guess Formula 1 has got it wrong then 

Quote :-

The gearboxes of modern Formula One cars are now highly automated with drivers selecting gears via paddles fitted behind the steering wheel. The 'sequential' gearboxes used are very similar in principle to those of motorbikes, allowing gear changes to be made far faster than with the traditional ‘H’ gate selector, with the gearbox selectors operated electrically.

Hardly relevant don't you think?
I don't live on a racetrack...and drive for fun...so different perspectives.

Besides, F1 cars haven't used H pattern gearboxes since Noah built his arc.


If I really wanted to have control, I'd have a 6 speed sequential dog-box...and not a computer controled DSG...then I'd have lightening quick gearchanges, with flat shift capability, and be in total control.
But as I don't live on a racetrack, I couldn't live with that either.