Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs

[jdjd]

The golf if overpriced IMO, Its not a question of affording it. Its a question of the price. had the R order books
opened at the same time as the GTI before price and vat rise ide of prolly jumped on it. I hate to think of the price should the VAT rise to 20% which seems unavoidable + showroom tax haha sh!ts become a joke. However i ordered my GTI back in April 09 took delivery in september just as they started annoucing the r.
 The R is underpowered as it is at 270bhp, The rivals Subaru Mitsubishi Ford all have cars with more bhp.

VW tried upping the game and the price. to mixed results

Ford now have a new RS version coming out, 330bhp I believe 
Mitsubishi The Evo technologically is years ahead of VW. Crushing pace A to B
Subaru Im unsure here. Personally I feel they have taken a step backwards. Still an unrelenting car. Serious power

Ide wager my GTI currently would take down a standard golf r. VWR quickshift,APR stage 2 intake,Revo stage 1, Running max boost 102 octane fuel.

[JonnyG]

The golf if overpriced IMO,

Do you mean the R or the whole Golf Range 

I think everyone agrees the R is overpriced ...... but that does'nt make it a bad car to drive ... in fact it's rather good 

[R32UK]

How does it actually compare to the R32??

If you could have the 3.2 V6 with 270bhp in the mk6 body would you?

[JonnyG]

Mitsubishi The Evo technologically is years ahead of VW. Crushing pace A to B

Not that far ahead on a track in this video    :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shEecUHNGf4&feature=player_embedded#!

[jdjd]

How does it actually compare to the R32??

If you could have the 3.2 V6 with 270bhp in the mk6 body would you?

Hmmm tough call.

IMO the R32 only ever had the V6 growl that made that car what it is.

To be honest i think ide rather have the TFSI engine simply because it can be modded easier and I like turbo'd cars. + I dont know anything much about engines but im guessing the 3.2 weighs more then the 2litre? please somebody correct me if im wrong.

 And yes the whole golf range is OP. sh!ts just getting crazy in england. I wonder if prices would be on a par with the rest of europe had we joined the eu years back. Or is it just really ripoff britain where all companys just push up prices as soon as the product reaches our shores.

[JonnyG]

How does it actually compare to the R32??

If you could have the 3.2 V6 with 270bhp in the mk6 body would you?

Have a read of my review here (I compare it directly with my R32)     :-

http://www.rforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=268.0

It has'nt quite got the same character / excitement as the R32 without the V6, but it's more of a Mr Sensible car ....yet deceptively quick and immensely capable in all conditions.   
 

[jdjd]

Mitsubishi The Evo technologically is years ahead of VW. Crushing pace A to B

Not that far ahead on a track in this video    :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shEecUHNGf4&feature=player_embedded#!

Carn't watch it on this sh!tty laptop im on. page wont load

Im guessing were talking about an FQ300 price wise that should be racing the GTI, Golf R vs FQ 320/340 depending on how how much blagging you stick into the mitsi salesmen

[am1w]

Slightly off topic, but what the hell!

I have now driven the Mk5 Golf R32 and Mk6 Golf R back to back. Both with DSG. The Mk6 R rules easily. Fanatstic car. A must with Mk6 R is ACC. Othewise, it is a bone shaker!

PS: BTW, compared the Golf R with 'rooco R. Both with DSG. Again Golf R rules in every way.
      But I still prefer a manual gearbox, though!

[R32UK]

How does it actually compare to the R32??

If you could have the 3.2 V6 with 270bhp in the mk6 body would you?

Have a read of my review here (I compare it directly with my R32)     :-

http://www.rforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=268.0

It has'nt quite got the same character / excitement as the R32 without the V6, but it's more of a Mr Sensible car ....yet deceptively quick and immensely capable in all conditions.   
 

no worries will do

clocking off now so will have a read tomorrow. Thats just my fear that its too mr sensible. I think it may just have to be a mk5 with turbo/supercharger (but i just know I will want a new car). So for now there is really only one car maker that still puts big engines in small cars

[PenguinGTI]

I think we have moved onto the eternal discussion about R/R32/GTI. 

Returning to the DSG v Manual speed discussion. There are 2 reasons the DSG is quicker.

1. The actual shift time is less as the gear is already running so the clutch can come in and out quicker allowing for more drive to the wheels.

2. The DSG does not lift off the throttle and as a result the turbo keeps spooling. This takes away turbo lag. If you want to test this try and change gear on a manual and a DSG with a dump valve. On the manual you will hear the turbo release. On the DSG it is silent until you lift off the accelerator.

Manual may be more fun but from standstill to 60 the DSG is quicker.

I would also say that on higher speeds the DSG also works better as at 100mph+ the wind resistance of the vehicle decreases the speed so any lapse in acceleration through a gear change is magnified. The Dsg has no lapse in acceleration compared to a manual