Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs

[jdjd]

But yet a dsg will still be slower round a racetrack........

[GtiJames]

..... possibly and only if it was been driven by a competent driver, where as dsg just does it everytime no matter how retarded the person behind the wheel is.....

now im sure all the 'manual' members on this forum are adapt at heal-and-toe driving and left foot braking too make the most of the gear box    

[JJH]

Let's not forget that dsg has a mind of it's own at times and can be really annoying.

Unless your at a track racing, not paying around mind, the difference of 0.6 sec off the line is irrelevant imo. A good driver in a manual will always beat a average DSG driver.

I like both manual and DSG. Ideally, however implausable, I would like both combined.

[herbie911]

For those who are more geeky with the tech stuff. Are the first 3 gear ratio in the manual same as the DSG? Obvious one with the shorter gear ratio will play a big part in better in-gear and 0-60times!

They tested manual vs dual clutch in a Porsche dedicated magazine in 2008. The PDK Carrera S was faster up 120mph but the manual car start to catch up and overtook the PDK car at 160mph! Look closely at the gearratio, the PDK car have a shorter second, third and fourth gear! The first, fifth and sixth gear is exactly are same on both car!

[PenguinGTI]

I can only comment from my own experience.

Up to about 120mph a DSG will leave a manual behind. No two ways about it. My 1/4 runs stop after this point so I've not had a chance to top out yet next to a manual. But I'm going to a little place called Germany in 2 weeks. 

Round a track the DSG can be considered more as a wife. For my part I am competent at heel/toe and double clutching and left foot braking so I never had a problem in taking a manual car round. In comparison the DSG annoys the life out of me. It always wants a different gear but you do learn to live with it. When that happens it becomes faster and faster and then I think they would be neck and neck. It's all about how comfortable the driver is in the car.

But the big advantage of a DSG on track is if I was to let my missus have a go. No over revs, no burnt clutch etc.

Ultimately though it comes down to personal preference. If you like manual, stick with manual. It's tried and tested and great. If you like automatics however then the DSG is by far the best auto I've driven. 

[am1w]

TBH, I am now even more delighted I chose a manual because I will soon be able to change gears with my Ed30 shifter. This is going to be both beautiful to view and delicious to touch continuously!

The gear shift on the car is now sublime, even better than the Honda Type Rs.

No point the DSG lads going for the equivalent DSG Ed30 shifter as they are less tactile drivers than us manual persons and thus will be wasting their money. They will mainly look at the shift but hardly touch or use it.

BTW, I am wearing my newly purchased bulletproof attire, so bring it on boys!

Enjoy your weekend.

[PenguinGTI]

BTW, I am wearing my newly purchased bulletproof attire, so bring it on boys!
Enjoy your weekend.

So he wears protection to touch his new nob? 

[am1w]

BTW, I am wearing my newly purchased bulletproof attire, so bring it on boys!
Enjoy your weekend.

So he wears protection to touch his new nob? 

I am trying so hard not to be knobbled by you and others
Had some fun with Steve30, Kev on the Mk 5 Forum on the 'This Weeks Autocar' thead. Fun bunch. I like them.

[PenguinGTI]

I know. I must say we have developed ourselves into more of a GIT forum than a GTI forum. I love it...

[am1w]

I know. I must say we have developed ourselves into more of a GIT forum than a GTI forum. I love it...

+1 and brilliant play with the logo.