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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #10 on: 20 May 2010, 13:41 »
In wet condition, no humans can react better than a computer. Besides the manual car is a 5 door which takes away the weight adavantage of a manual car. It will be more interesting if they do rolling start (Youtube style); I think it will be more relevant to everyday street racing/road rage!

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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #11 on: 20 May 2010, 13:41 »
tbh its not a very good test. What was he hoping to prove anyway?? that dsg is faster than manual?? Thought that was done about 6yrs ago :undecided:

How is dsg faster ? since when could you red-line a dsg ?

 :grin: its faster plain and simple....

as while your putting your foot on the clutch and changing gear, dsg has already done it, and you dont even have to take your foot of the accelerator

also the red-line does not make one bit of difference as your puny K03 turbo will run out of puff by 6krpm  :nerd:

Well not according to VW its not, you know the people that made the cars. Who do I believe, them or a nob on a forum ?


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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #12 on: 20 May 2010, 13:45 »
In wet condition, no humans can react better than a computer. Besides the manual car is a 5 door which takes away the weight adavantage of a manual car. It will be more interesting if they do rolling start (Youtube style); I think it will be more relevant to everyday street racing/road rage!

lets say 0-62 is faster with dsg, and lets say no human is faster than a computer (which I agree with) but lets also say the computer changes gear before red-line (which it does) and lets say hypothetically were on a straight line... the manual will eventually catch you up and take over, it may take a bit of time but it will happen. So it is actually faster top speed.


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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #13 on: 20 May 2010, 13:51 »
tbh its not a very good test. What was he hoping to prove anyway?? that dsg is faster than manual?? Thought that was done about 6yrs ago :undecided:

How is dsg faster ? since when could you red-line a dsg ?

 :grin: its faster plain and simple....

as while your putting your foot on the clutch and changing gear, dsg has already done it, and you dont even have to take your foot of the accelerator

also the red-line does not make one bit of difference as your puny K03 turbo will run out of puff by 6krpm  :nerd:

One other thing, that I missed, since when does the EA888 have a K03 turbo ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #14 on: 20 May 2010, 14:31 »
biggest load of tosh i have read kev since am1w claimed nitrogen reduced his unsprung weight..

http://www.arinahnell.com/other/vw/tech/20tsi.pdf   page 6!

your turbo (whatever it is) runs out of puff just after 6krpm so it does not matter how much harder you rev it as you aint going to get anymore out of it until you upshift - fact!

although by all means give it a go kev  :smiley:  rev it up to 8krpm and try some flat shifting while your at it  :smug:




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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #15 on: 20 May 2010, 14:33 »
:grin: its faster plain and simple....

as while your putting your foot on the clutch and changing gear, dsg has already done it, and you dont even have to take your foot of the accelerator

GTI 0-60 DSG 6.9 seconds
GTI 0-60 Manual 6.9 seconds

yeah, its much faster  :rolleyes:
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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #16 on: 20 May 2010, 15:42 »
In wet condition, no humans can react better than a computer. Besides the manual car is a 5 door which takes away the weight adavantage of a manual car. It will be more interesting if they do rolling start (Youtube style); I think it will be more relevant to everyday street racing/road rage!

lets say 0-62 is faster with dsg, and lets say no human is faster than a computer (which I agree with) but lets also say the computer changes gear before red-line (which it does) and lets say hypothetically were on a straight line... the manual will eventually catch you up and take over, it may take a bit of time but it will happen. So it is actually faster top speed.

A comedy post :laugh:. love it!!  :smiley:

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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #17 on: 20 May 2010, 16:13 »
tbh its not a very good test. What was he hoping to prove anyway?? that dsg is faster than manual?? Thought that was done about 6yrs ago :undecided:

How is dsg faster ? since when could you red-line a dsg ?

 :grin: its faster plain and simple....

as while your putting your foot on the clutch and changing gear, dsg has already done it, and you dont even have to take your foot of the accelerator

also the red-line does not make one bit of difference as your puny K03 turbo will run out of puff by 6krpm  :nerd:

One other thing, that I missed, since when does the EA888 have a K03 turbo ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

one thing i missed too... the ea888 does have a K03 Turbo and its had it since the vw techs put the car together  :smug:

if you wanted to rev over 7krpm then you should have bought the R but you didnt because you cant afford one  :kiss:


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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #18 on: 20 May 2010, 16:40 »
Steve Sutcliffe testing manual versus Dsg. £1305 well spent imo.

Two cars, same conditions and an accurate speed checker, and someone that can drive and handle a car slightly better then joe public.

VW claims are well out. Id be pretty pissed Vw sold me a car thats half second slower then they claim.

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Re: Golf R. DSG vs. Non-DSG 0-62 Mph runs
« Reply #19 on: 20 May 2010, 16:43 »
In wet condition, no humans can react better than a computer. Besides the manual car is a 5 door which takes away the weight adavantage of a manual car. It will be more interesting if they do rolling start (Youtube style); I think it will be more relevant to everyday street racing/road rage!

lets say 0-62 is faster with dsg, and lets say no human is faster than a computer (which I agree with) but lets also say the computer changes gear before red-line (which it does) and lets say hypothetically were on a straight line... the manual will eventually catch you up and take over, it may take a bit of time but it will happen. So it is actually faster top speed.

A comedy post :laugh:. love it!!  :smiley:

Could be worse, I could be a compedy driver who does f**k all but crash his car.  :grin:


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