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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #80 on: 09 April 2010, 22:31 »
not sure if i am going off subject here, but i read somewhere that the 2.0 fsi crank will fit into the 1.8t block as long as you press on the oil pump gear. this will take you up to 2008cc.. im not sure what else you need for this set up though.. perhaps a rebore and bigger pistons for more im not sure. but with all the other gubbins im sure this will make a huge benifit..  only thing is i cant remember where i heared it.. im sure it was some american company selling a stoker kit for the 1.8t but i think they gave too much info away whoever they were.. perhaps i am doing the same..lol  :lipsrsealed:

You are correct. However, you will need different specification pistons and connecting rods.  Usually, when stroking the 1.8T, a re-bore of the block is involved.  Low-end torques are vastly improved, but the most notable improvement is power and torque "out" of boost; meaning, accelerating when not at full boost.

American companies, 034 Motorsport and INA Engineering both sell "stroker" kits that utilize the FSI crank.  For more info, head over to www.vwvortex.com and search the 1.8t technical forum archives for the keyword "stroker". 
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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #81 on: 09 April 2010, 22:33 »
You said stroker, ha ha.

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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #82 on: 09 April 2010, 22:35 »
lol @ your username.  :grin: 

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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #83 on: 09 April 2010, 22:37 »
It's been a blessing and a curse. :grin:

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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #84 on: 09 April 2010, 22:55 »
You said stroker, ha ha.

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lmao..  you sounded yank yourself then.. bit like nelson off simpsons..lol

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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #85 on: 09 April 2010, 23:00 »
Forgive my American English.  I'm sure it will go away with time.  I just moved, mind you. 
Thanks to Jeremy Clarkson, I had a slightly better understanding of the English language, before I moved.  lol   ....I'll learn.   :wink:

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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #86 on: 09 April 2010, 23:16 »
don`t worry yourself mate, i`m sure it wasnt a dig at you.. perhaps its the way i introduced nelson into it.. my bad really...

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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #87 on: 10 April 2010, 12:01 »
Now this is what i call a debate! This to me is one of the best discussions there has been on this forum in months!

Ivor nice to hear from you mate, i agree with everything that your saying! But again missing my point to a degree. I am not slating the engine by the guy who built it , as i have read up on alot of his stuff before and he really does know his sh!t! Nor am i slating the guy whose bought it!

As the post a few threads upwards suggests, its just my mind set. Built not bought! Thats just me! I am not slating that this guy has gone out and bought it as hes spent alot of money there! And it will perform like a monster! I am just simply stating in my eyes i dont see that as a project! Its more of a good buy if you will.

I love how people keep bringing up NOS. Yet to be honest i dont even think highly of NOS, it was a test, an experiment. And it also very very rarely been done a mk4 golf! which again is why i did it! To get the mk4's out there! The car got a feature in Banzai just for having it!

But im not trying to annoy Jord with my threads. if anything compliment him on a superb buy! Its just if you imagine the build thread for this.it would be 'bought the engine', 'fitted the engine' and thats it!

But to me , i like to see the whole lot! Late nights working out why thats not working, getting parts in you thought you would never need! getting 5 mates to help you get the gearbox in, bottom end out! to me thats motorsport! but i stress! that is me! It might not be everyone!

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Re: 450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way
« Reply #88 on: 10 April 2010, 12:03 »
Imagine if i said that your all wrong and that the golf should just be left as its standard self? lol  :sick:


Then with a signature like that, you've got a lot of explaining to do!  :laugh:
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Re: 400bhp? ...........just got a sh!t load closer....pg4
« Reply #89 on: 10 April 2010, 12:06 »

1. I love to see people take on a massive challenge, and do it themselves to a level that they want it to.

2. this thread does not deliver in my opinion. This was a pretty easy way out to a big project in my opinion. Buying an engine that has been made and crafted by someone else does not mean that you have made a car that has 450bhp, because you might aswell have gone out and bought a car thats 450bhp.

3. People who own nissan sklyline GTRs dont take the credit for "making" there cars 500bhp, as they did not make it, they bought it!

4. But this is something that i want to say " bloody hell, i actually did it, i have achieved what i set out to do" , and when this day comes i will be one proud  guy.

5. I know some people have written good decision on buying the engine as alot of time saved, alot of hassle saved, alot of money saved etc etc etc. But thats not what modifying is about! These things should take time, they should take hassle and of course money! As thats what tuning to me is about!

6. Sorry to ramble, but just thought i would give out my opinion on this. as to be honest if i had that engine! I would feel like i was cheating the project, myself and the car!

f**k, just read back through this thread and have seen that modgod has writtend new rules on tuning....so heres a response

1. Cheers

2. Well your opinions wrong, clearly you have unrealistic expectations of the thread, i say in the first post that tuners will do all the work.

3. Thats because they came out the factory that way, this car will only be running more than that because i have decided i want it to, i want a very powerful mk4 golf gti to drive and enjoy. show me a factory built 450 bhp mk4......

4. Me to, it will probably just come sooner

5. Didnt realise there are rules in tuning, please forward me a PDF of the guidelines.

6. Yeah i definately wont have that feeling because im setting out to do something ive wanted to do for a long time in a way that means i can achieve that with the constraints i have.


To be honest dude, i know its an opinion, but it really does seem to me like you just want to piss on my chips an thats not on at all. Im a dubber, you are too, i dont judge anyone on how their cars built, an neither do most people on here, i just like to see an enjoy the end product, however it came to be.

Anyway cheers to everyone else for the encouraging words, take turns razzing it up the strip soon!



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